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EzzyD 25-02-2013 01:01

Missing Vessel (Northern California), 4 souls
 
Sad news just came over the wire:

SAN FRANCISCO | Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:13am EST
(Reuters) -
The U.S. Coast Guard searched on Sunday for two adults and two children missing with their sailboat after sending a distress call that their vessel was in trouble along the California coast south of San Francisco, the agency said.

The 29-foot craft was about 65 miles off the coast of Pillar Point, at the northern end of Half Moon Bay, when a member of the crew radioed late Sunday afternoon that the vessel was taking on water and that its electronics were failing, the Coast Guard said.

About an hour later, the vessel operator reported that the four people aboard the boat, two of them children under the age of 8, were abandoning the craft, and the Coast Guard lost radio communications with them.

The Coast Guard said in a statement that the four people from the missing vessel, believed to be named the Charmblow, might have made it into a makeshift life raft, but that their fate was not known.

Local television station KTVU reported that victims lacked life rafts or survival suits and planned to tie a cooler and other materials together to give them a means of floatation until they could be rescued.

Cormorant 25-02-2013 03:18

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Horrifying.

I wonder why, given the hour between the "taking on water" message and the "abandoning ship" message, the Coast Guard didn't send a chopper out, or at least get a precise fix on their location.

MarkJ 25-02-2013 03:51

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Terrible story.

I know its so trendy for people to think small boats are as seaworthy as bigger boats but 29 feet LOA 65nms off the coast in winter.

Sea Temp San Fransisco: 50.5
(02/25/2013 10:48 UTC)

boatman61 25-02-2013 04:16

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Dunno about it being any trendier than cruising in general...
funny how when its a big boat going down it must be the skipper... when its 30ft or under it must be the boat...:whistling:regardless that more folk have individually/privately done the 3 Capes in boats under 35ft than larger.

virginia boy 25-02-2013 05:48

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This is awful. I sobbed when I thought of those babies out there desperately trying to stay alive by hanging on to a cooler. Those poor kids.

fstbttms 25-02-2013 05:53

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This smacks of a hoax. I hope it is.

rebel heart 25-02-2013 06:01

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Maybe they had wetsuits onboard or some other way of cranking the time out a bit.

Cormorant 25-02-2013 06:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fstbttms (Post 1168065)
This smacks of a hoax. I hope it is.

I'm clinging to that idea, too. I Googled around to see if there was a blog, or even a mention in the context of a sailboat, for "Charm Blow" or Charmglow or Charmblow or Charm Glow . . . Didn't turn anything up. But plenty of people don't put info about themselves and their boats out on the internet, so it may all be real.

Cormorant 25-02-2013 07:59

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Here's a slightly updated AP story:

MONTEREY, Calif. (AP) Four people missing after reporting their sailboat was sinking south of San Francisco are a husband, wife, their 4-year-old son and his cousin, also a child.
Coast Guard Lt. Heather Lampert says the agency was able to gather that information from broken distress calls the family began making around 4:20 p.m. Sunday.
The boaters said their 29-foot sailboat was taking on water and the electronics were failing. Lampert says investigators using the boat's radio signal and radar now believe the call came in from an area about 60 miles west of Monterey, farther south than earlier reported.
The boat and air search focused there Monday morning. Lampert says the sailboat did not have a working GPS system.
She says the Coast Guard has not received any missing persons' reports.

svHyLyte 25-02-2013 08:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EzzyD (Post 1167947)
Sad news just came over the wire:

SAN FRANCISCO | Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:13am EST
(Reuters) -
.... The 29-foot craft was about 65 miles off the coast of Pillar Point, at the northern end of Half Moon Bay, when a member of the crew radioed late Sunday afternoon that the vessel was taking on water and that its electronics were failing, the Coast Guard said.

I'm going to call BS on this. I think it's a hoax. Firstly, Rescuer 21 is active off the coast in that area with a range of 20+ miles. I cannot see a contact from 65 miles off Pillar Point--maybe 6.5 miles but not 65. Secondly, why in heck would the boat sail 65 miles off-shore before yelling for help? It's only 25+/- miles from the GG Bridge to Half Moon Bay with leaving a wide margin off shore? And no accurate position report? Does anyone know anyone that doesn't carry a GPS any longer? If they are carrying a radio capable of transmitting and being received from that distance, no GPS? It just doesn't add up.

Paul Elliott 25-02-2013 08:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by svHyLyte (Post 1168154)
I'm going to call BS on this. I think it's a hoax. Firstly, Rescuer 21 is active off the coast in that area with a range of 20+ miles. I cannot see a contact from 65 miles off Pillar Point--maybe 6.5 miles but not 65. [...]

You raise some good points, and I hope you're right about it possibly being a hoax, but I can easily believe a VHF contact with the USCG shore-station from 65 miles west of Monterey (the current estimated position). When propagation conditions are right I've heard the California USCG transmitters several hundred miles offshore, and spoken with them at close to 50 miles.

rebel heart 25-02-2013 08:33

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Yeah I've heard some pretty far off signals, and the USCG antennas are located way high in the air so they're getting much better than typical ship-to-ship. It also could have been picked up or relayed by aircraft. If they issued a mayday any asset (that was listening) would have relayed the traffic.

I'd look more towards seamanship than "electronics". I mean what the hell does that even mean.

rognvald 25-02-2013 09:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boatman61 (Post 1168018)
Dunno about it being any trendier than cruising in general...
funny how when its a big boat going down it must be the skipper... when its 30ft or under it must be the boat...:whistling:regardless that more folk have individually/privately done the 3 Capes in boats under 35ft than larger.

Well said, Boatman!

The Garbone 25-02-2013 09:37

65 miles out means they were doing an overnight passage. Raises the question of who travels far and wide without a tender, and with children aboard. Crazy.

rubyjean 25-02-2013 10:33

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I have sailed those waters often and it can get pretty pissy fast this time of year. Also whales like to get very close out of curroisity, possible collision. But I'll be the first to hope it's a hoax. It just doesn't sound right to me either... Michael..


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