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RonEMac 11-06-2018 07:30

Fresh water to blue water cost estimate
 
Just started looking for a boat. I found a 92 hunter passage 42. That sits in fresh water four months out of the year then on the hard the rest. How much would it take to make it blue water ready?

Pete7 11-06-2018 07:53

Re: Fresh water to blue water cost estimate
 
What do you mean by blue water? crossing a large ocean or sailing to a nearby island, then hoping to the next.

Unfortunately no one can give you a figure in dollars without an extensive survey of the boat and list of objectives you desire for the type of sailing you choose.

Perhaps spend some time reading the previous threads on CF once you have spend a couple of days going over the boat. Have you visited it?

Pete

S/V Illusion 11-06-2018 08:14

Re: Fresh water to blue water cost estimate
 
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Originally Posted by RonEMac (Post 2649490)
Just started looking for a boat. I found a 92 hunter passage 42. That sits in fresh water four months out of the year then on the hard the rest. How much would it take to make it blue water ready?

I've seen blue water in Lake Michigan and in Bora Bora and a few places in between. Assuming you mean fresh to salt water, it should "take" nothing other than changing the bottom paint.

RonEMac 11-06-2018 08:40

Re: Fresh water to blue water cost estimate
 
I haven’t seen the boat in person. Pics look good. It’s on Lake Michigan when it’s in the water. I want to sail to the Bahamas and maybe cross over pacific

john61ct 11-06-2018 13:58

Re: Fresh water to blue water cost estimate
 
How long is a piece of string?

Between $10,000 and a quarter mil

hellosailor 11-06-2018 14:34

Re: Fresh water to blue water cost estimate
 
The boat is ready now. Well, unless there are the usual unspoken problems like needing new standing rigging, new sails, any repairs, electrical work, inadequate tankage, no storm sails...

Really, YOU need to see a boat in person, and then the rest is a matter of what it takes to get YOU ready for blue water. Does the boat have instruments? Communications? Would you know how to receive weather forecasts if it did?

Anything can cross oceans, the question is, what about the crew and operator? If any of this is news to you, you are still looking at an adventure. Or, trouble.

Steve Olson 11-06-2018 14:56

Re: Fresh water to blue water cost estimate
 
Why would you buy a Hunter to cross oceans? That's like buying a Mazda Miata to haul loads of dirt. And saying that you can "cross oceans on anything" is just dumb. You can do it on a surfboard, but would you want to?? BTW - previous Hunter owner here.


Steve

Going Gaugain 12-06-2018 08:22

Re: Fresh water to blue water cost estimate
 
I have been evaluating cost to make my current Great Lakes sailboat ready for offshore ocean cruising: new sails, rigging, life raft Epirus, off shoe life vest, ddrogue, extra spinnaker pole,new batteries, wind vane, back up autopilot “, SSB, new canvas switch to all new bottom paint : 70-80 thousand easy.

boatman61 12-06-2018 08:37

Re: Fresh water to blue water cost estimate
 
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Originally Posted by Going Gaugain (Post 2650264)
I have been evaluating cost to make my current Great Lakes sailboat ready for offshore ocean cruising: new sails, rigging, life raft Epirus, off shoe life vest, ddrogue, extra spinnaker pole,new batteries, wind vane, back up autopilot “, SSB, new canvas switch to all new bottom paint : 70-80 thousand easy.

Man you guys love to spend..
If the mast is standing and no holes in the sails your good to go.. :biggrin:

Sailshabby 12-06-2018 08:58

Re: Fresh water to blue water cost estimate
 
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Originally Posted by boatman61 (Post 2650274)
Man you guys love to spend..
If the mast is standing and no holes in the sails your good to go.. :biggrin:

“Love to spend”? Dear god, no, but we’re realists that have grasped the basic concept of self sufficiency and oh, right, there isn’t a breakdown lane out there to wait for the tow truck.

Suijin 12-06-2018 08:59

Re: Fresh water to blue water cost estimate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Going Gaugain (Post 2650264)
I have been evaluating cost to make my current Great Lakes sailboat ready for offshore ocean cruising: new sails, rigging, life raft Epirus, off shoe life vest, ddrogue, extra spinnaker pole,new batteries, wind vane, back up autopilot “, SSB, new canvas switch to all new bottom paint : 70-80 thousand easy.

And all that is just bolt-on carry-on stuff.

Personally, most Hunters I have been on would require a lot of refitting/reinforcement before I would take them into blue water. They're just not built for it, so it's no slam on them. Some of their models are probably fine, but I've been on a few that are definitely not.

This question comes up a lot when someone finds an inexpensive production boat designed for coastal waters and wants to take it far and wide. You're usually better off in terms of money, work, comfort, etc. buying a different boat.

akprb 12-06-2018 08:59

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Here is one that is ready to go blue water! Just sailed her back solo from Bshamas to FL!

You can take off tomorrow or I’ll deliver her anywhere on the east coast including Bermuda or the Caribbean! (If the link does not work PM me)

1994 Hunter Legend sailboat for sale in Florida

akprb 12-06-2018 09:01

Re: Fresh water to blue water cost estimate
 
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Originally Posted by Suijin (Post 2650291)
And all that is just bolt-on carry-on stuff.

Personally, most Hunters I have been on would require a lot of refitting/reinforcement before I would take them into blue water. They're just not built for it, so it's no slam on them. Some of their models are probably fine, but I've been on a few that are definitely not.

This question comes up a lot when someone finds an inexpensive production boat designed for coastal waters and wants to take it far and wide. You're usually better off in terms of money, work, comfort, etc. buying a different boat.

Read “Hunter, really?” on blog. I used to feel the same way. The Legends series a sweet spot in their line up ;-)

dangerfield55 12-06-2018 09:17

Re: Fresh water to blue water cost estimate
 
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Originally Posted by akprb (Post 2650293)
Read “Hunter, really?” on blog. I used to feel the same way. The Legends series a sweet spot in their line up ;-)



It depends on what your goal is. I sail Lake Michigan and 5 years here equals maybe a year in salt water so the boat is good to go if you plan on coastal cruising say Canada to the Keys and Bahamas. You can pick the season and weather windows. To jump from Beaufort to the Caribbean it would take a lot more outfitting in my opinion as would across to Europe. There is great sailing and places to see on the Great Lakes and going out the St Lawrence or the Erie Canal would be an experience.

Suijin 12-06-2018 09:26

Re: Fresh water to blue water cost estimate
 
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Originally Posted by akprb (Post 2650293)
Read “Hunter, really?” on blog. I used to feel the same way. The Legends series a sweet spot in their line up ;-)

Oh no doubt, some of them are more than capable. There's a pretty wide range in models/years and I'm no expert. But there are quite a few they have put out that are just not designed for it or built for it. Shop wisely.

The Passage 42 is a bit squishy and squeaky and does not have much tankage, despite the name. But it's a fair amount of 90's boat for the money.


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