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Scare_Rab 24-08-2014 21:18

How I'm Connecting 2 x Lines ( Jordan Series Drogue )
 
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I have half the cones on a thinner line and the other half on a thicker line. This is how I'mjoining the thinner line to the thicker line. The maillon is rated to 56K. I wonder about the plastic, yet do see people who simply join rope to rope.
Questions, comments welcomed.

Ecos 24-08-2014 22:02

Re: How I'm Connecting 2 x Lines ( Jordan Series Drogue )
 
That is not the way shown in the directions. How did you/they come up with that idea? I would never trust that connector, it's improper.

conachair 24-08-2014 23:57

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Originally Posted by Scare_Rab (Post 1613208)
I have half the cones on a thinner line and the other half on a thicker line. This is how I'mjoining the thinner line to the thicker line. The maillon is rated to 56K. I wonder about the plastic, yet do see people who simply join rope to rope.
Questions, comments welcomed.

Are you sure about the 56k rating of the mallion rapid? Hard to see from the pic but it looks like maybe a 8mm or 10mm. Specs here..
http://www.s3i.co.uk/rapide_link_large_mouth.php

I've used galv quicklinks for decades suspending lighting rigs and scenery for theatre and have a few stainless on the boat, no reason why not to use one. A little tidier than a shackle.

From memory my Jordan has soft eyes cow-hitched together at the same join.

Pete7 25-08-2014 00:07

Re: How I'm Connecting 2 x Lines ( Jordan Series Drogue )
 
Is there a safe working load or WL stamped on that connector. I have a couple of board rated to 1000 kgs but I have seen others without any markings. I have just measured mine and its 8mm.

Pete

conachair 25-08-2014 00:15

Re: How I'm Connecting 2 x Lines ( Jordan Series Drogue )
 
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Originally Posted by Pete7 (Post 1613259)
Is there a safe working load or WWL stamped on that connector. I have a couple of board rated to 1000 kgs but I have seen others without any markings. I have just measured mine and its 8mm.

Pete

Not very often you see swl's stamped on stainless. Not sure why, such a small market maybe, I've seen stamped maillons as well but not when they first came out. Maybe as they became more standard for theatre type applications where a test cert is needed they started doing them.
Thinking about the Jordan, it might be worth thinking about a dyneema soft shackle. Less metal to be bouncing off the back of the boat as it gets deployed.

Pete7 25-08-2014 00:44

Re: How I'm Connecting 2 x Lines ( Jordan Series Drogue )
 
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Not very often you see swl's stamped on stainless. Not sure why, such a small market maybe, I've seen stamped maillons as well but not when they first came out. Maybe as they became more standard for theatre type applications where a test cert is needed they started doing them.
Thinking about the Jordan, it might be worth thinking about a dyneema soft shackle. Less metal to be bouncing off the back of the boat as it gets deployed.

I suspect the cheap stainless is made in Asia and they don't want to mark it. Thankfully my local chandler takes his time to source stuff that won't let his customers down. Its a family run business so reputation is everything. We do have the equivalent of 'Defender' over here full of 18 year olds who like to give advice, until you ask them what they use on their boat.

I actually use my connector between the anchor chain and the extra 15m of multiplait. The connector is stamped Made in France and a WL of 980 kgs. I am unlikely to need more than this on a 31ft yacht as the bow would be under water before the connector gave way.

However, back to the OP, I wouldn't use this in a Jordans Series Drogue. The only time you are going to use a JSD is when the brown stuff has hit the fan and the whole system has to be bomb proof. I believe a JSD can generate an equivalent force equal to the weight of the boat.

monte 25-08-2014 00:48

Re: How I'm Connecting 2 x Lines ( Jordan Series Drogue )
 
The cone supplier in England suggested using a cow hitch in lue of eye splicing as the splices weren't available when we made ours.

thinwater 25-08-2014 05:17

Re: How I'm Connecting 2 x Lines ( Jordan Series Drogue )
 
I believe the main reason for the cow hitched eyes was to reduce chafe. That's going to be moving under a very high occilating load. And the plastic thimbles are (always) nothing more than a joke. I would carefully check the rest of the construction.

I would be very temped top chalenge the maker that it is an improper construction and to do it over. It is not per specifications, and this is one of those times that matters.


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