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Dockhead 07-10-2013 01:18

Monitor for On-Board Comp
 
I'm still struggling to find the right monitor for my boat. I bought a 23" desktop monitor -- the smallest for sale off the rack in Southampton with a digital (HDMI and/or DVI) input.

It's far too big :(

I need something probably 14" to 17", with a digital input, and with the possibility of rigidly mounting it to a horizontal surface (which I know I can do separately with some kind of VESA mount).

I have not been able to find anything suitable. There is a new crop of USB monitors in the right size, but I'm not sure this is what I want.

Anyone struggle with this issue?

Tymadman 07-10-2013 01:23

How about an iPad? There are apps available which allow the iPad to be used as a monitor for your PC.

Dockhead 07-10-2013 02:21

Re: Monitor for On-Board Comp
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tymadman (Post 1358166)
How about an iPad? There are apps available which allow the iPad to be used as a monitor for your PC.

I have an IPad on board, but it's a bit small for this purpose.

I have seen really good flexible stalk mounts for IPads which would be terrific for this application, but -- 10" is too small, and also, running a monitor emulator app is going to be too kludgy. If I'm willing to give up the normal digital input, then probably one of those new USB monitors would be a better solution, but I can't quite given up yet.

Ideal would be 15" or 16", widescreen, very light, high res, LED backlight, digital inputs.

Can't seem to find such a beast :(

Tymadman 07-10-2013 02:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dockhead (Post 1358191)
I have an IPad on board, but it's a bit small for this purpose. I have seen really good flexible stalk mounts for IPads which would be terrific for this application, but -- 10" is too small, and also, running a monitor emulator app is going to be too kludgy. If I'm willing to give up the normal digital input, then probably one of those new USB monitors would be a better solution, but I can't quite given up yet. Ideal would be 15" or 16", widescreen, very light, high res, LED backlight, digital inputs. Can't seem to find such a beast :(

While you're looking you could give the iPad a try for only a few dollars.

forsailbyowner 07-10-2013 02:57

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look toward the automotive and rv world, I bought a 19" flat panel lcd for around $129. Has usb hdmi and vga connections and runs off 12v. There are 12v tvs from 7" on up that have vga/hdmi. Something like this

AC DC 12 Volt Multi Use Cord 13" Portable LED LCD Digital TV Television HDTV New | eBay

and why not have a tv tuner built in also? Which computer are you using? I chose a zbox with the atom processor,its touted as one of the lowest power consumption for processing power units out there. Im going to start playing with the raspberry pi when I get some other projects done.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zotac-Zbox-D...item19e2e45c4b

scoobert 07-10-2013 02:59

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if i didnt own 4 monitors already, i would go with a touchscreen...
Newegg.com - Computer Hardware, Monitors, Touchscreen Monitors, 15", 17", 15.6"
you can keep the keyboard hidden until you need it, mouse too.

Opie91 07-10-2013 03:13

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I was trying to do the same thing as you and eventually settled for a monitor with a VGA input instead of digital.

Hanns-G HL161ABB Black 15.6" 16ms Widescreen LED Backlight LCD Monitor 200 cd/m2 500:1 - Newegg.com

Wraith_Mac 07-10-2013 04:34

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Here's a couple of examples that may help in your search,
ITM-5115 - 15" XGA Industrial LED Monitor with Fully Flat Resistive Touchscreen - Advantech
G615HDPL - LCD Monitors - Products | BenQ Global
Cheers,
Mac

W32PAMELA 07-10-2013 04:49

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+1 for the HannsG if it is available in the EU. If you don't have a VGA output there are some inexpensive HDMI to VGA adapters. I've used this one from Amazon.

Dockhead 07-10-2013 04:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wraith_Mac (Post 1358232)

Thanks!

The Advantec is nice looking industrial monitor, but costs $700!

The BenQ is VGA only like a number of others I've found.

One option is to just give in and use the analogue interface, as someone above suggested.

conachair 07-10-2013 04:58

Doesn't tick many of your boxes but Samsung do a 19"

http://m.samsung.com/uk/consumer/pc-.../LS19B150NS/EN

Runs fine straight off 12v. You'd still need a hdmi/vga converter and something to mount it.

Wraith_Mac 07-10-2013 05:06

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Dockhead,
Sorry, meant to link this one below, not the BenQ
Orion Images Corporation, Manufacturing LCD CCTV Monitor
Cheers,
Mac

Dockhead 07-10-2013 05:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wraith_Mac (Post 1358252)
Dockhead,
Sorry, meant to link this one below, not the BenQ
Orion Images Corporation, Manufacturing LCD CCTV Monitor
Cheers,
Mac

Very nice!

But $1,200! Ouch!

Dockhead 07-10-2013 05:25

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I might be in love:

PRODUCT- Gechic Corporation

widescreen 15.6" touch screen

USB powered (no need to rig any power supply; just connect it to the computer with a USB cable)

HDMI input

VESA mounting

ultrathin

extremely high resolution (full HD)

Reasonably affordable ($400).

looks just about perfect!

Dockhead 18-10-2013 12:26

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Ultimate boat computer monitor VESA 100 Kit for On Lap 1502-Accelerate the Power of Touch Monitor - YouTube

Lake-Effect 19-10-2013 06:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dockhead (Post 1358266)
I might be in love:

PRODUCT- Gechic Corporation

widescreen 15.6" touch screen

US$250 in the US :)

There's also a 13" version for about US$150.

Interesting unit, for sure. Perfect? Well, not waterproof, not sunlight visible. 2A at 5v, (=10w) which isn't terrible. How durable is it?

But definitely getting there - and hopefully just the first in a slew of new monitors in this space.

NahanniV 19-10-2013 19:51

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Pixel Qi 10.1" sunlight readable screen very low power.

The screen module with LVDS (most laptop motherboards) interface:
Pixel Qi 10.1 Inch Transflective LCD Display Screen | My Digital Discount

The screen module with a HDMI, VGA, NTSC/PAL converter board:
https://www.adafruit.com/product/1303

These would need to be fitted into a case.

Dockhead 20-10-2013 01:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

US$250 in the US :)

There's also a 13" version for about US$150.

Interesting unit, for sure. Perfect? Well, not waterproof, not sunlight visible. 2A at 5v, (=10w) which isn't terrible. How durable is it?

But definitely getting there - and hopefully just the first in a slew of new monitors in this space.

That's the non-touchscreen version, no longer produced AFAIK. Certainly, a better deal.

Lake-Effect 20-10-2013 09:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NahanniV (Post 1369140)
Pixel Qi 10.1" sunlight readable screen very low power.

The screen module with LVDS (most laptop motherboards) interface:
Pixel Qi 10.1 Inch Transflective LCD Display Screen | My Digital Discount

The screen module with a HDMI, VGA, NTSC/PAL converter board:
https://www.adafruit.com/product/1303

These would need to be fitted into a case.

THIS I would consider the right technology for a marine display, and the price is getting more reasonable. Now we just have to wait for someone to add a touchscreen and wrap the display in a robust, waterproof case.

(BTW it's not all that difficult to install an after-market touchscreen to a display. I installed one into an eee 701 (7" display). The whole kit, including USB interface, was about $35. But the factory-installed touchscreens are usually better)

nimblemotors 20-10-2013 10:04

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Why would you need one that is visible in sunlight?
Putting it someplace shaded would not seem to be a problem?

btw, the kindle seems quite good as low-power and visible in daylight,
i understand they can be converted to run as general tablet and not just bookreader.
Yes they are small, but perhaps using multiple?

Dockhead 20-10-2013 10:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by nimblemotors
Why would you need one that is visible in sunlight?
Putting it someplace shaded would not seem to be a problem?

btw, the kindle seems quite good as low-power and visible in daylight,
i understand they can be converted to run as general tablet and not just bookreader.
Yes they are small, but perhaps using multiple?

I don't need for this to be daylight visible - it will live on some kind of stalk at my chart table.

Lake-Effect 20-10-2013 12:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nimblemotors (Post 1369556)
Why would you need one that is visible in sunlight?

(I'm just speaking for me) Because if it's not sunlight-visible and marine-durable it's just another land-toy that will fail at sea. Plus, people will wanna use these things at the cockpit eventually. Why have a navigational tool on-board that can't survive the environment?

McGinnis 20-10-2013 13:07

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Just to throw my $0.02 in on the subject.

We mounted a 23" LCD computer monitor on the bulkhead, ran CAT5 when I rewired and use a CAT5 to VGA converter with a great amount of usefulness. The computer lives under the nav table with blue tooth keyboard and mouse. Luckily, the monitor has the mounting holes for a "normal" flat screen mount and we bolted it right up.

Ipad gets used in the cockpit.

Jonty 21-10-2013 23:20

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Hi,

I posted this on another thread. B.I.S. Electronics GmbH do a range of monitors open frame and enclosed from 10" to 26" I think (can't seem to paste website) Although not splash-proof they are designed for the marine industry. 9 - 30v, dim to 0, 1600 brightness, VGA and DVI-D inputs and on the open frame the osd buttons have a sticky backed extension. We never need more than 50% brightness and our wheel house has all round glass! Very happy especially for night navigation. Navnet BB into vga and Open CPN into DVI.

John

Jonty 21-10-2013 23:30

Re: Monitor for On-Board Comp
 
Also see on eBay UK for overhead mounted tv/monitors with multiple inputs and reasonable brightness 15.6 I think. There are also quite a few companies in the UK who can supply flat panels to one's requirements.

John

Paul Elliott 22-10-2013 03:20

Re: Monitor for On-Board Comp
 
I recently used a 14" USB-powered monitor (described here in the VALIS blog) and I was pretty happy with it. I had to fool the computer into thinking that it had a regular monitor attached though. I used a VGA dummy plug, but there was probably some BIOS trick I could have done instead. In the blog I mention that the display can be dimmed appropriately for night use, but I discovered that it was still too bright even at the minimum setting. I ended up throwing a cloth over it.

It's funny how the dimmest setting is too bright, but at the same time not bright enough for reading the on-screen fine print and other details. Perhaps if my eyes were younger this wouldn't be a problem.

I plan to use the same computer/monitor setup again this summer. I will probably use some smoked plastic for night-use. I use a wireless keyboard and trackball with the computer. The overall power consumption is quite low -- about 2A @ 12V.


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