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Old 12-03-2018, 22:19   #1
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New family, new-to-us boat?

Itís been awhile since Iíve been on here so small update. My wife and I just got married and after talking to my grandpa he is giving me his 23ft ranger. (Iíll put up a new hello post for more details).

Anyway, after my mom passed recently a lot has changed and Iím curious how feasible it would be to live on a 23ft boat with 1 child and 2 dogs(I say 2 dogs because our Saint Bernard is getting older and may not last more than s few more years sadly). Granted this is all in the future as the boat needs some tlc. Reason Iím considering this is the size and because we love to travel, she would also like to homeschool our daughter so schooling isnít an issue. Iíve heard a lot of docks do the 1$ a foot or 2$ a foot for a slip and keeping length down wouldnít be terrible idea either. We arenít too afraid of the minimalist lifestyle persae, we lived in a 200sqft shack for our 1st year together with 3 dogs, fish and a hamster. My plan would be to sail locally near port (where ever that may be) and every few months or so sail open ocean, Roatan, Thailand, French Polynesia, Kauai are on my bucket list stops.

With all that said, how doable is this on this boat?
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Old 12-03-2018, 23:17   #2
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Whereís the Ďhold my beer and watch thisí icon?

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Old 12-03-2018, 23:22   #3
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Old 13-03-2018, 01:53   #4
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Re: New family, new-to-is boat?

Orepenguin,

Well, we had some friends--he was about 22, and she was 18--who sailed a Top Hat (25 ft) from Australia to Canada, via HI, then returned, via Mexico and French Polynesia. When they left, they were a couple, when they arrived back, there was a daughter and one on the way. NO dogs. The voyaging part worked well.

The dogs won't be welcome in the South Pacific. The 23 foot Ranger is a day sailer. You'll have to consider the room required for water, and food and spares. My guess is that it is not the right pocket cruiser for the job. And you'd better not take your animal friends. The reasons are legion and covered in other CF threads. If you are unwilling to go back for them because of danger to boat and crew, best find them good homes, before you leave. Had a girlfriend whose dog went overboard and couldn't be found, the heartache has stayed with her to this day. Or stay home, and care for them, as perhaps their love has earned for them, and venture out when you and the family are better positioned for it...

My own opinion is that a St. Bernard is way too big for such a small boat, and it would be a form of torture for it, especially an older dog. In general, cats do better on boats than dogs, but food for long ocean passages for humans and dogs takes space, space I don't think that boat has.

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Old 13-03-2018, 03:10   #5
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Of course, doable: if you get the boat shipped to your "bucket list locations" on the deck of a freighter. Still, I am a bit reluctant how comfortable would be a 1.5 ton boat in the Pacific swell.
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That size boat you may be able to do it.. just.. but without the dogs.
But seriously a St Bernard on that boat is just silly.
Even more so if your considering crossing oceans.. your best averages will be 75 to 85nm/day if you sail in season.. you cannot carry enough food and water for long passages.. stay coastal till your dogs die.. for their sakes.
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Huge difference between that boat and a 200 sq ft shack. The shack has a yard! It is really bigger than 200 sq ft. The boat doesn't have the yard and it is all you've got.
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No

(The forum algorithm said my message was too short, has to be at least 5 characters) :-)

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The is sufficient room for the Hamster - but I doubt the dog and the three of you would fit. I'm betting the relationship won't survive a month without a shower.
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Old 13-03-2018, 09:07   #10
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Dock queen or day sailer should work. Maybe some coastal cruising as well. Bottom line- boat too small and dog too big for extended trips. IMHO weekend is about the maximum you should attempt. Live aboard in marina doable but be aware most marinas charge by the foot but with a 30 or 40' minimum. Anchoring out would be a PITA given a big dog to transport and walk several times a day.
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Re: New family, new-to-is boat?

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Itís been awhile since Iíve been on here so small update. My wife and I just got married and after talking to my grandpa he is giving me his 23ft ranger. (Iíll put up a new hello post for more details).

Anyway, after my mom passed recently a lot has changed and Iím curious how feasible it would be to live on a 23ft boat with 1 child and 2 dogs(I say 2 dogs because our Saint Bernard is getting older and may not last more than s few more years sadly). Granted this is all in the future as the boat needs some tlc. Reason Iím considering this is the size and because we love to travel, she would also like to homeschool our daughter so schooling isnít an issue. Iíve heard a lot of docks do the 1$ a foot or 2$ a foot for a slip and keeping length down wouldnít be terrible idea either. We arenít too afraid of the minimalist lifestyle persae, we lived in a 200sqft shack for our 1st year together with 3 dogs, fish and a hamster. My plan would be to sail locally near port (where ever that may be) and every few months or so sail open ocean, Roatan, Thailand, French Polynesia, Kauai are on my bucket list stops.

With all that said, how doable is this on this boat?
Not meaning to be crass but surely you jest?
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Before I say more
let me clarify...the Saint Bernard would NOT be with us. She is currently almost 8 and this whole plan wouldnít happen for atleast 4 years due to me going in the military and also having quite a bit of work to do on the boat to get it back up to par. We arenít sure how much more time she has but 4 years is getting up there. She will NOT be with us.

Lol either way I get the gist of it, not a good idea in that small of a boat.
I guess my next question is would it be better for me to get some time on it in open water then step up to something bigger or just start saving for something bigger now and keep the ranger as a Tahoe boat?

As far as experience goes Ive been on boats since I was 3 and have done racing camps, racing blah blah blah. Biggest boat Iíve sailed was my grandpas cs 36 before he sold it. Problem Iím concerned about is most of my experience was inside the San Francisco Bay or on lakes, not much open ocean stuff. Iím not trying to put the cart before the horse but I do want to know how I can prepare before anything happens as far as setting out on a decent trip like Iíve mentioned
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By the way thank you for all the answers and help! Definitely nice to hear from some experience as to what the best plan would be
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I'd be sure to get the old St.Bernard neutered... for everyone's sake... I'm just sayin'... surely no room left for another youngun'!



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You snuck the dog report in while I was typing...

Laugh anyway! It was funny!

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