Longevity . . .

[Bash]

I've found that it's a fairly simple matter of getting the right female into the right boat. It helps, of course, if all parties concerned are madly in love with each other.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Bash

I've found that it's a fairly simple matter of getting the right female into the right boat. It helps, of course, if all parties concerned are madly in love with each other.

Or you could end up on the run.....

[Bergovoy]

Originally Posted by Bash

I've found that it's a fairly simple matter of getting the right female into the right boat. ....

Isnt that kinda like aquare pegs and round holes...

[SurferShane]

Originally Posted by TheWatchman

I have lived aboard since 1993.

During this time, have seen many partners come and go. Most state the liveaboard lifestyle as the problem...,,

Maybe just enjoy the variety and fact you did not have to put up with them any longer than they were faced to endure living aboard?

I really believe it is selfish for anyone to expect another to give up the crux of their lifestyle for a relationship. Likewise, even if they were some sort of rich model I would prefer to be single than “caged” or “hen picked”. Then take me away from the sea and I am likely to become an angry and dehydrated old man.

Yep – I am still waiting to meet someone who understands this!

[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by SurferShane

I really believe it is selfish for anyone to expect another to give up the crux of their lifestyle for a relationship.

Yep. Look for likewise people and you are set ...

b.

[SurferShane]

Originally Posted by barnakiel

Yep. Look for likewise people and you are set ...

b.

Thanks - this is why I sure am looking forward to seriously setting sail and exploring whatever else is out there!

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by SurferShane

Thanks - this is why I sure am looking forward to seriously setting sail and exploring whatever else is out there!

Or could you mean 'Whoever..'

[SurferShane]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Or could you mean 'Whoever..'

Exactly!

I spend my nights reading about why the crew of the Bounty mutinied. Other than the fact Christian Fletcher was a bit unstable and inexperienced the women of those islands were the girls of fantasies. Maybe some of old Polynesia still exists?

[Wand]

Originally Posted by osirissail

One way to narrow the field is to only look at women from an living environment that is similar to the parameters of living on a boat. Like ones from as far away from centers of population as possible. Especially women who have and are living in "frontier" conditions. Then moving onto a cruising boat is a "step up" rather than a sacrifice of what she is used to or raised to be used to.

On the contrary, you'd best be looking for a someone currently living in a shoebox bedsitter. They'd be the only ones who'd see living cramped full time on a boat as a release.

Personally, I don't see how any bloke could live without a shed and half an acre for his toys.

[Wand]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Or you could end up on the run.....

Like ronnie biggs eh? BTW boatman, my facts are right - 'robbery with violence' was one of his two convictions for that crime...

[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by SurferShane

Exactly!

I spend my nights reading about why the crew of the Bounty mutinied. Other than the fact Christian Fletcher was a bit unstable and inexperienced the women of those islands were the girls of fantasies. Maybe some of old Polynesia still exists?

Depends.

There are still women in Polynesia but they are rather obese by Western standards of beauty (not 'by Western standards' though ;-))). Boys are FAR more handsome, in fact. That's what my first mate claimed and she is probably right.

The crew mutinied because they were a bunch of good-for-nothings. Read on to see what happened towards the end of the story on the remote island of Pitcairn. Thanks Queen we have good police and some judges left in the UK.

Aside from the boys and girls and some of pollution they (and us) make, Polynesia is doing fine and you will probably enjoy it very much when you get there.

However, make up your mind on what your priorities are, because one can also sail to Polynesia single-handedly.

How do we spell 'single handedly' though?

;-)
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[SurferShane]

Originally Posted by barnakiel

Depends.

The crew mutinied because they were a bunch of good-for-nothings. Read on to see what happened towards the end of the story on the remote island of Pitcairn. Thanks Queen we have good police and some judges left in the UK.

;-)
b.

From what I have been reading half the crew who sailed with Bligh back to Batavia weren’t much better? No doubt the ones who stayed behind ranked among the worst of the worst? Where Bligh seemed to keep some sort of order amongst the natives the mutineers in his absence reeked havoc causing countless deaths and committing numerous rapes.

The thing that amazes me is that after the mutineers had finished playing “lord of the flies” on Pitcairn, the last of them turned the natives they had taken with them - mostly women - to a form of Christianity and lived quite peacefully. Sounds like he was on a good wicket?

I have the book by Christian Fletcher’s descendant that goes right into the ongoings on Pitcairn. It is next on my reading list. Although things have changed it is still interesting reading and a nice background for a visit.

[barnakiel]

'Quite peacefully' does not really describe the situation.

Nine men arrested on Pitcairn - The Press | HighBeam Research - FREE trial

Pitcairn Island Mayor Michael Warron Arrested On Child Pornography Charge | World News | Sky News

So much for mutineers' whies and how comes.

Simple explanations of simple facts are most often the correct ones.

b.

[SurferShane]

Originally Posted by barnakiel

'Quite peacefully' does not really describe the situation.

Nine men arrested on Pitcairn - The Press | HighBeam Research - FREE trial

Pitcairn Island Mayor Michael Warron Arrested On Child Pornography Charge | World News | Sky News

So much for mutineers' whies and how comes.

Simple explanations of simple facts are most often the correct ones.

b.

Well back then passing sailors reported that the last of the original mutineers lived respectably and in harmony under the veil of some sort of Christianity. Along with his age I am guessing this was the reason he was never returned to England to face a court martial? Obviously over the century and more since things have degenerated? No doubt in any such community so small, isolated and influenced by anarchy and native customs there are always going to be problems with the limited gene pool and the continuation of the rule of law?

Don’t think I am trying to start an argument; on the contrary this is really interesting stuff. As would be going back and reading the notes taken by people such as Captain Bligh about the native’s sexual proclivities and fondness of the sailors. It was amazing that even when facing starvation getting back to Batavia he just kept journalizing such anthropological facts. It would also be great to get out there and see how much of the customs and of course hospitality still exists.

[barnakiel]

Bligh was a top notch navigator, officer and an educated man. His crew were just like the crews of all ships back then. I believe he was an officer with Cpt. Cook some time earlier (or was it another Bligh perhaps?).

There was no fondness of any sailors there, there was fondness of the metal nails that were traded by the sailors in exchange for sex. Daughters and wives were offered to them by their fathers, who were fond of fishing. Apparently metal nails make good hooks.

To get this kind of 'hospitality' today you will have to go to Thailand, which is what many sole male sailors do anyway (maybe sole female sailors too, but I have only met men doing so).

You can google up the rest of the Thailand paradise for yourself.

Hospitality in Polynesia varies and we found French Polynesians and Cook Islanders very friendly and joyful, while Tongans were much more reserved. I believe this may be related to which imperial power occupied / occupies the place, and specifically - which religion dominates.

Make sure when you go to French Polynesia you speak French as a minimum and some Polynesian vocabulary will go a long way towards making a good start in any relationship with local people. The same applies though elsewhere - otherwise how would one know what local people say while they are smiling at you (yes, a common problem with many cruisers - claiming a place is a paradise - they don't speak the language but they have thick wallets, so they are 'welcomed' everywhere ;-)).

A handful of first hand, thus biased, observations.

Cheers,
b.