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Old 24-03-2011, 18:26   #1
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Your Opinion on Non Pressurized Alcohol Stoves

Hello All,
I'm doing a major refit of my boat and I've been thinking of replacing my force 10 propane stove with an Origo Alcohol stove and I'm interested in people's experience with them. I"m looking at the three burner with oven models. My biggest concern is in fuel consumption. We live aboard and cook a lot! I've read that you only get 6-8 hours per quart of fuel?! Is that right? It seems like a lot to me but I can't find anyone I know that lives aboard with these stoves.

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Old 24-03-2011, 18:34   #2
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re: Your opinion on Non pressurized alcohol stoves

Welcome to the forum!
I prefer propane
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Old 24-03-2011, 18:35   #3
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re: Your opinion on Non pressurized alcohol stoves

We don't live aboard, but I've taken a three-month cruise with ours. The Origo works great and is simple to maintain. Seems like if you really fill it up, it lasts a few days to a week or more. That may be six to eight hours burning time. But how long do you actually have the stove on most days? The only trouble is pouring from those gallon cans of alcohol into the stove without spilling. We finally learned to use a big turkey baster for refueling. I think overall the stove performs as well as propane and is less hassle.
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Old 24-03-2011, 19:30   #4
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Re: Your opinion on Non pressurized alcohol stoves

I had one on my previous boat. You are correct about the rate of fuel use. They also make alot of water condensation that is rather messy. They are however quite safe. I enjoyed mine, but now have propane.

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Old 24-03-2011, 19:47   #5
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Re: Your opinion on Non pressurized alcohol stoves

What about fumes? Although we do not live aboard, we have had good experience with our stove and fuel consumption. I also like the idea of not having a pressurized system to maintain. In cold weather however, we had issues with fumes in a closed space when using the stove. Any similar experience?
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Re: Your opinion on Non pressurized alcohol stoves

i prefer propane. this boat has experienced 5 alcohol stove fires. i changed her to propane when i bought her. both my boats have been converted from alcohol to propane.
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Re: Your opinion on Non pressurized alcohol stoves

Alcohol has really low BTU content compared to propane or kerosene. If you can live with the propane, I'd stick with it, especially if you want to boil lobster, nearly impossible with an alcohol stove.
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Re: Your opinion on Non pressurized alcohol stoves

My first boat had a pressurized alcohol stove/oven with a separate tank. It worked fine so long as I was watching it, otherwise it had a tendency, in the oven, to run away. My friend's boat across the dock had the Origo range/oven. He and his wife had baked some muffins and were on board ours. The wife went back to their boat for a smoke and started yelling. Even though they had turned off the oven, the knob didn't work and their oven "ran away". My friend grabbed a hose and ran below to quench the fire and the stove, being red hot, blew up. It scattered bits of glass from the oven door all over the place and the wood all around the stove/range was severely singed. To their credit, Origo, sent him a new stove when he contacted them.

Those kind of things, plus the pre-heat needed, convinced me to go to propane. It's dangerous as well but with a proper installation and few safety monitors, I'll live with it. Also, as mentioned in prior posts, propane is more versatile for fine cuisine.

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Re: Your opinion on Non pressurized alcohol stoves

I like my Origo. Never boiled lobster but it works fine for everything else and no fumes. I have a propane but don't like dealing with the tank and the possibility of an explosion. but that's just me. You know what they say about opinions!
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Re: Your opinion on Non pressurized alcohol stoves

abalone sucks when cooked on alcohol. totally rubbery and nasty. not hot enough to cook correctly. is great for caMP STOVES BUT NOT FOR dAaily living, whichmy boat is--i why i use propane--much less chance of burning down the house with propane than alcohol.as i have stated, MY FORMOSA WAS bURNED 5 TIMES BEFORE I GOT HER -- BY alcohol stoves. i have never had a propane fire on my boats, never ever.
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Even though they had turned off the oven, the knob didn't work and their oven "ran away".
"ran away" !? An Origo stove will not run away since there is no pressure and the flame is self-limiting even with no control. You can take the fuel canister out of the oven and light it and it will just burn steadily.

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My friend grabbed a hose and ran below to quench the fire and the stove, being red hot, blew up. It scattered bits of glass from the oven door all over the place and the wood all around the stove/range was severely singed.
You mean the glass shattered when it was hit with water, right ? What singed the wood ? There is no alcohol to explode but maybe you are saying that the glass shards singed the wood ?

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Those kind of things, plus the pre-heat needed, convinced me to go to propane.
It doesn't seem like you are talking about an Origo in any of this. There is no preheating of an Origo stove.



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MY FORMOSA WAS bURNED 5 TIMES BEFORE I GOT HER -- BY alcohol stoves.
The cook drinking alcohol does not make it an alcohol stove, even after he does it 5 times.

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i have never had a propane fire on my boats, never ever.
It is true that propane accidents don't usually result in fires. Propane accidents tend to split the hull to deck joint.



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The only trouble is pouring from those gallon cans of alcohol into the stove without spilling.
Agree. Figuring out and practicing how to decant the fuel without spilling was the one piece of advice I sent Jessica Watson before she took off.

We always fill in the sink but still don't like to waste the spilled fuel. I'm amazed nobody has come up with a no-drip, no-spill nozzle. I've thought of trying to use a gasoline fuel hose balloon pump, but then we'd have to store it somewhere.

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Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Schooner HD.
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Re: Your opinion on Non pressurized alcohol stoves

Love our Origo. It's only a 2 burner but it boils a pot of water pretty quickly. I had propane on our previous boat, [a Morgan Classic] and while propane was pretty nice [and I'd heard all the complaints about alcohol] I listened to advice from a long time sailor who enjoyed her Origo and I have to agree. It's very safe and efficient. But if I were a live aboard, I'd prefer propane or butal fuel.
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