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Old 20-05-2011, 19:46   #1
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Wine

Ok. I know this will set off a huge argument ;-)

I am the first one to enjoy a good bottle of
1998 Hastae Quorum Barbera d'Asti Barbera
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glass on a boat?? - storage, disposal - and I don't have a good place for a wine cellar on my boat, so I have gone to box wine. Found some pretty good wine. It doesn't break, keeps for a long time, and is easy to store.

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Old 20-05-2011, 19:53   #2
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My glass is nearly empty.... kind Sir
Socks are good at protecting bottles... and if by chance one should break the glass is contained in the sock...
And a good cardboard is fine by me....
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Old 20-05-2011, 20:00   #3
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Boxed wine is the way to go, but if you do have bottles then just rap them in towels and you are good to go.

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Re: Wine

When sailing to certain places which want extra flesh from you if you bring your own,
one might use plastic Cranberry bottles with screw on lids for Cabernet...
In those bottles, whites look like apple juice. The bottles are very durable.

Not that I'd ever do that. Just sayin'.
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Re: Wine

Knee high athletic sox have been known to house many, many bottles of wine in our "liquor locker" - there is no such thing as a wine cellar on a 37' sailboat!

Even better if you get to Central America .... Clos Cabernet in a litre box. The joke is "it's not good wine, but it's Clos". Haha. Usually $2-ish a box ... I think at one time we had 3 cases aboard. Only bad thing is there is no bladder inside the Clos box, so you can't get rid of the box. But try it if you're in Honduras, Guatemala or Panama!

Bottled wine is no problem, we had 2 cases of 2 Buck Chuck aboard last winter all in sox in the liquor locker -- behind the starboard settee - only 1 of three compartments - you'd be amazed at how much wine you can fit aboard when you're motivated!

155 nights on the hook with no good provisioning stops made me very innovative about my wine!
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glass on a boat?? - storage, disposal - and I don't have a good place for a wine cellar on my boat, so I have gone to box wine. Found some pretty good wine. It doesn't break, keeps for a long time, and is easy to store.
Never broke a bottle yet. So long as they don't clank on each other they transport well. We have a nice rack that holds bottles upside down against the hull. Trouble is it only holds a case. Fine for short trips. Alas the water temperature in the cellar is not so favorable in parts of the world where you may desire most. A decent 55 F is hard to come by in the warmer reaches we strive for.

I did make PVC sleeves from straight PVC pipe with couplings on the end for the crystal. A decent glass goes a long way to bridge the gap in wine. A nice rum or scotch neat works well too. A good "Dark and Stormy" when you can get the proper fixings isn't all that intolerable either.
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Re: Wine

Have never broke a bottle, plate or glass on the boat. Don't believe in using plastic camping equipment in my home

Have broken a glass in the sink.
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Old 20-05-2011, 21:01   #8
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We have Lenox China too. Select seconds from the outlet in January can be a great deal. Gozzard has a nice china locker. So far no china broken and only two crystal glasses lost but only broken during use not transport. About the same percentage as on land.
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Re: Wine

It's got to be 30 years since Ferenc Mate wrote about wine storage in "The Finely Fitted Yacht", and I see no reason that a well-found vessel can't stow one or two dozen bottles in safety. I mean, they don't have to be in a presentation case, do they? You could wrap 'em in towels or bubble wrap and put them wherever they will fit and just keep a graphical record of where everything is.

Frankly, I've spent since I was 21 assembling a decent cellar...I'm not going to drink it all too soon just because I'm going cruising! Some of 'em go well with fish!
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I have never broken a bottle. Beware of cardboard casks however. With lots of motion the inner lining can rub and abrade small holes, makes a mess.
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Re: Wine

I have just started home brewing my own wine (works out $1.50 a bottle). You can bottle it in plastic. But you do have to drink it with in 10 months (not a problem). Unfortunately batch number one tastes like crap and I may use it as antifouling. Practise makes perfect (I would settle for drinkable). A lot of the cask wine you get is great. You can stack it up every where. .
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I have just started home brewing my own wine (works out $1.50 a bottle). .
Then you're paying too much. My last brew of rice wine worked out at $10 for 25 litres, and it's good too. So how much is that a bottle?

Oh, and the only cardboard I allow on board are the boxes that come around the whiskey bottles...
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That would make about 35 bottles at 71centsish a bottle.
Way cool!! Is Rice wine Saki?
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Re: Wine

Yup. Here goes:

2.5 litres of white rice
1 litre of raisins
0.5 litre sugar
25 litres of Water
tsp yeast

Sterilising equipment
1 - Add a cap of bleach (Clorox) to bin and lid or demijohn. Or big empty water dispenser bottles. Shake thoroughly.
2 - Rinse thoroughly.
3 - Rinse thoroughly again.

Making the saki
4 - Add ingredients.
5 - Seal tightly with cling film, sellotaped around lip.
6 - Swill (just once) every day.

Racking the saki
7 - When bubbles stop, syphon into another sterilised container.
8 - Seal tightly with cling film, sellotaped around lip.
9 - Swill (just once) every day.

Bottling the saki
10 - When all gases have stopped esacaping (you'll know, cos the cling film stops swelling when you swill it), syphon into sterilised bottles

Did I mention sterilising? Don't skimp on this bit...
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Re: Wine

We have no problems with wine onboard. We do have a bottle locker but it only holds a case. I usually buy four or five cases in Cherbourg (great excuse for a run across the Channel). We just keep the cases in the bilge and bring up bottles when needed. Wine bottles are incredibly tough and I've never broken one on board.

Like others, I don't believe in plastic crockery on board except maybe in the cockpit and in rough weather. We use glass, china and pottery just like at home and it seems that we break less of it on board than on land.

Just use it, enjoy, replace anything that breaks - no big deal.
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