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Old 02-07-2010, 11:18   #166
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Lodsman, beware what you read in the NYTimes or elsewhere. Bear in mind, there are some eight million legally resident New Yorkers. And some 20 million legal residents of the "greater NY" aka "NY metropolitan" area, all within an hour of Central Park.

With that many folks rattling around in that small a cage, fifteen or even fifty sighting of any chi-chi trend don't make it popular,. just another fad. Any food that sounds like "pooh" aka excrement, is going to get good jokes on the comedy channel but...it takes more than that to Make It Big in the Big Apple.

"Corner Burger, which serves 13 varieties of the stuff, " And some of those variations some of the chi-chi shops are selling, would make the Quebecois take up arms and come running!

Frankly I think we've got more places serving Kobe beef than poutine. Doesn't mean we're all hot for Kobe beef, just that with 20 million people within take-out delivery range...Oh, wait a minute, isn't that the same size as the entire population of Canada? All lumped in a one-hour circle?

NOW you see why it looks popular, we've probably got enough Canadian ex-pats in town to keep those all alive.

For a real treat, you want to stop by one of NY's Tibetan restaurants. There's nothing that quite hits the spot like a glass of nice hot tea, with gobs of not very fresh yak butter added in. Yeah, we've got yak butter, too, but it's hard to find the fresh stuff. Hasn't made the fad status yet.

You can find pretty much anything in NY, except native-born YnGlitch-speaking New Yorkers these days. 24x7x365 and usually from more than one source.
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:28   #167
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MRE's are a good source as well.They can be quit good and have several meals from chili mac to beef stew.They are easy to prepare,save on weight and use very little space.I have extensive knowledge of this because of my prolonged camping trips in the Army(hehe).but seriously they are great to have in your inventory.For those times in between provisioning.Dried fruits and meats are great aswell.I have tried some of the non military made MRE's and didnt really care for them but preference would apply in this.They can be expensive but can be bought on a budget if you shop around and have a very long shelf life.
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Old 02-07-2010, 14:22   #168
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We had individual meal packs or IMPs in the RCSC. These were very very similar to the MREs used in the US.
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Old 02-07-2010, 22:19   #169
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...Bear in mind, there are some eight million legally resident New Yorkers. And some 20 million legal residents of the "greater NY" aka "NY metropolitan" area, all within an hour of Central Park.
You're talking about an area that covers parts of four states, roughly 12,000 square miles - the only way that's within an hour of Central Park is by flying.
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... just that with 20 million people within take-out delivery range...Oh, wait a minute, isn't that the same size as the entire population of Canada? All lumped in a one-hour circle?
Close, there are 34 million of us - we like our space thanks. Gee, for such a proud supporter of New York, I would've thought you'd be more confident in its influence on the nation; you know, "fad today in New York..."

Clearly we won't agree - history will be the judge.
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Old 02-07-2010, 22:37   #170
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Ugh it sounds awful.
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Have to change the name though, I don't know if the average patron will be up for something called "poutine" - sounds too weird & foreign.
Don't knock it 'til you try it.
No doubt you will put your own spin on the pronunciation - much as you have with Baton Rouge, Detroit and so on. As for sounding weird - what about grits, chitlins, hash, spam, succotash, crawdads, jambalaya?

PS - I would not recommend poutine at sea, particularly if you might be prone to seasickness - you do not want to barf up a semi-solid ball of cheese and potato chunks.
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Old 03-07-2010, 07:59   #171
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PS - you do not want to barf up a semi-solid ball of cheese and potato chunks.
Finally - something everyone can agree on!

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No doubt you will put your own spin on the pronunciation - much as you have with Baton Rouge, Detroit and so on. As for sounding weird - what about grits, chitlins, hash, spam, succotash, crawdads, jambalaya?
No doubt indeed. There being a fair number of us who seem to think a vinaigrette-style salad dressing is called "Eye-talian".
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No lfying needed, Lodesman.
"Based on commuting patterns, the Office of Management and Budget also defines a wider region consisting of the New York metropolitan area plus five adjacent metropolitan areas. The area is known as the New York-Newark-Bridgeport, New York-New Jersey-Connecticut-Pennsylvania Combined Statistical Area (CSA), with an estimated population of 22,232,494[1] as of 2009."
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All those commuters are by car, bus, and rail. The hot dog carts have had fierce competion from fallafel and kabobs for years now, but poutine...Well, you can serve it a hundred times a day from a hundred shops, and still not dent the market. While other cities have caught up and passed NYC on mileage, or tower height, or population density, she's not quite dead yet. Then again, with all the ethnic restaurants I've seen, I can't ever remember seeing one that says "Quebecois Cuisine". I must have missed it, I'll have to start counting all over again! <VBG>
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No lfying needed,
If you honestly believe you can get from Central Park to New Haven in an hour, you're either flying or you're high. There's no way it can be done by car, bus or train. That goes for the Hamptons, and Pennsylvania too.

20 years ago you could only get poutine in Quebec. Now it's all over Canada and some fast-food chains carry it. Does that mean we've stopped eating hot dogs? - No, of course not. Does it mean that other new ethnic dishes like falafel, shawarma and donair have not been adopted? - No, of course not. A couple years ago, poutine did not exist in New York - now there are dozens of restaurants/eateries that offer it. That's a much larger supply than could be consumed by the small number of ex-pat Quebecois living in New York. No-one suggested it would drive the hot-dog carts out of business, or unseat regional favourites - but as you keep stating, there are an awful lot of mouths in New York; some of them are stuffed with poutine, and some of those are American. Have a happy July 4th.
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Poutine has been done to death and anyway it's not likely to make it's way on to a cruisers basic food list

Far more important, indeed critically important for many female sailors is CHOCOLATE.
Chocolate saves lives especially at that time of the month when we might otherwise act on thoughts of dealing with the latest idiot to pee us off.

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(This is meant to be tongue in cheek, please no arguments about whether it's more likely to be found in NYC or Quebec)
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Please, lets be careful here... for FULL medicinal value it must be DARK chocolate... preferably over 70% cacao...

and no lie, the boat NEVER is without chocolate.

even with chocolate on board I worry that the 200 foot of line I have to trail the dingy, with Himself in it, won't be long enough on the really BAD days!

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A Vac Sealer is the way to go..cost a bit $220 AUD but man do they do a good job on keeping things fresh, or for alot longer, and you can reuse the bags. Just wash them out , turn them inside out to dry, and away you go, if your making the bags off a roll make them longer so you can use them a couple of times. And you can seal any other thing that comes sealed...saves alot of plastic.
Vac n seal!!

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Want something sweet?

Hot Pan

Mix 1/2 Cup of sugar with 1/3 Cup water to make a surup.

Pour into hot pan till brown, DONT BURN!!!

Then spoon onto oven paper, wax paper ...in a groovy design....let cool ( 5 mins )

Peel off HARD Sugar stuff, stick in a cold mango, pour over passionfruit.

Throw down neck!!
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even with chocolate on board I worry that the 200 foot of line I have to trail the dingy, with Himself in it, won't be long enough on the really BAD days!
Well, you could always cast off the line.
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have you got a receipie for yogout whilst at sea?
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