Serious Beer Question

Knowazark · 13-07-2009, 22:27

At the risk of starting a debate the likes of Rocna v Delta, Mono v Multi, solar v wind, etc I have a serious question relating to beer on board.

While I much prefer to drink beer from a bottle (it keeps, tastes and pours better from glass), I would hate to have bottles broken and beer lost and for this reason (and for the compact storage of cans afterward) the aluminium can would appear to be the best way to store (ha!) and transport beer on board a yacht.

So what's the preference, bottle or can?

nautical62 · 13-07-2009, 22:34

Guinness draft in a can - poor it into a glass.

I generally also prefer bottles, but in addition to breakage, I like that cans be crushed for substantially less waste storage space. Many of the islands I visit also have limited waste disposal and so I feel better about creating less volume and broken glass there as well.

Another option is to brew your own and use either 2.5 or 3 gallon ss mini kegs.

GeoPowers · 13-07-2009, 22:42

Jameson in a bottle and Powers wine in a box!

Wotname · 13-07-2009, 22:43

Al cans don't travel well, they will wear through if subject to vibration etc but it is not a problem if you consume often and replace them frequently with new ones

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mesquaukee · 13-07-2009, 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wotname

Al cans don't travel well, they will wear through if subject to vibration etc but it is not a problem if you consume often and replace them frequently with new ones

.

And we must not forget the saltwater corroding the cans.

Consume and replenish often, don't forget to rotate your stock.

Portobello · 13-07-2009, 23:09

It's rare that my cans actually make it into storage!!

fstbttms · 14-07-2009, 00:04

Cans are actually a better packaging technolgy for beer than glass. Glass allows UV light to react with the isohumulones in beer (responsible for the "skunkiness" that Heineken is infamous for in the U.S., for instance) and are more likely to allow the beer to oxidize. Not to mention the weight and breakage issues (especially important aboard). Unfortunately, most good beer is not yet available in cans, althought that is beginning to change in the craft beer industry.

unbusted67 · 14-07-2009, 00:11

On a side note, could you put a keg in a propane locker? Sometimes it is more important to have beer than hot food.

john540 · 14-07-2009, 00:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by unbusted67

On a side note, could you put a keg in a propane locker? Sometimes it is more important to have beer than hot food.

AMEN! I have heard that beer contains all the amino acids necessary to sustain life. It's the oldest recipe known to man, it was a big part of the "Code of Hammurabi" that was found on the Rosetta Stone. It will last much longer than bread without going moldy.

Benjamin Franklin is reputed to have said, "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to have fun!"

MarkJ · 14-07-2009, 03:07

Cans and plastic beer bottle (for the home brew) cant have glass at sea rolling round the fridge

Talbot · 14-07-2009, 03:10

Bottles break

Aluminium cans can wear through due to vibration damage

steel tins can affect the compass

What a quandary! better drink them up quickly

captain58sailin · 14-07-2009, 00:32

I kind of like skunky beer. I am going to search out those small kegs, when I start brewing on the boat, I'll want to minimize the amount of monkeying around, it would be so much easier just to put it into a nice keg. Which means I will have to engineer a cooler for the keg, who needs a refrigerator for food anyway?

fstbttms · 14-07-2009, 09:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain58sailin

I kind of like skunky beer.

Well, just know that it's not supposed to smell that way.

Dockhead · 14-07-2009, 03:32

Cans are more practical, obviously. Easier to dispose of (garbage is always a problem on a cruising boat). Much lighter, so much easier to carry to the boat. Don't break (broken glass a big PITA on board -- I'll never forget a cockpit floor covered in blood from the interaction between my bare feet and shards from a broken beer bottle, when sailing in a heavy Meltemi wind in Turkey when I just couldn't leave the helm to put on shoes).

But in many locales, you can't get the local beer in anything but bottles. In the Caribbean, sometimes tiny little bottles which are a PITA (one gulp each). So you take what you can get.

Don Lucas · 14-07-2009, 04:49

Glass bottles are best!!!!

But have to settle for cans or plastic for the boat.

13-07-2009, 22:27	#1
Knowazark Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Boat: Davidson 47, 15.2m LOA - "Seaforth" Posts: 55	Serious Beer Question At the risk of starting a debate the likes of Rocna v Delta, Mono v Multi, solar v wind, etc I have a serious question relating to beer on board. While I much prefer to drink beer from a bottle (it keeps, tastes and pours better from glass), I would hate to have bottles broken and beer lost and for this reason (and for the compact storage of cans afterward) the aluminium can would appear to be the best way to store (ha!) and transport beer on board a yacht. So what's the preference, bottle or can? __________________ Some people are like slinkies - they serve no real purpose in life, but they always bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.

13-07-2009, 22:43	#4
Wotname Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Boat: Van DeStat Super Dogger 31' Posts: 1,250	Al cans don't travel well, they will wear through if subject to vibration etc but it is not a problem if you consume often and replace them frequently with new ones . __________________ All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangereous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T.E. Lawrence

13-07-2009, 23:09	#6
Portobello Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hobart Boat: Portobello - a Walter Knoop designed "DOVEN 30" Posts: 161	It's rare that my cans actually make it into storage!! __________________ Love the journey!

14-07-2009, 03:07	#10
MarkJ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Asia - on Sea Life Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life" Posts: 3,025	Cans and plastic beer bottle (for the home brew) cant have glass at sea rolling round the fridge __________________ Malaysia... near Singapore If you are going up G.O.A 2010 PM me. OurLifeAtSea.com

14-07-2009, 03:10	#11
Talbot Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stavanger, Norway Boat: Last boat was a Catalac 9m Hi-Jude Posts: 2,905	Bottles break Aluminium cans can wear through due to vibration damage steel tins can affect the compass What a quandary! better drink them up quickly __________________ "Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors - and miss." Robert A Heinlein

13-07-2009, 22:34	#2
nautical62 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Iowa Boat: Beneteau 32 - Aurora Posts: 774	Guinness draft in a can - poor it into a glass. I generally also prefer bottles, but in addition to breakage, I like that cans be crushed for substantially less waste storage space. Many of the islands I visit also have limited waste disposal and so I feel better about creating less volume and broken glass there as well. Another option is to brew your own and use either 2.5 or 3 gallon ss mini kegs.

13-07-2009, 22:42	#3
GeoPowers Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Everett, WA Boat: Beneteau 393 Posts: 156	Jameson in a bottle and Powers wine in a box!

14-07-2009, 00:04	#7
fstbttms Commercial Vendor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 409	Cans are actually a better packaging technolgy for beer than glass. Glass allows UV light to react with the isohumulones in beer (responsible for the "skunkiness" that Heineken is infamous for in the U.S., for instance) and are more likely to allow the beer to oxidize. Not to mention the weight and breakage issues (especially important aboard). Unfortunately, most good beer is not yet available in cans, althought that is beginning to change in the craft beer industry.

14-07-2009, 00:11	#8
unbusted67 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Boat: NO BOAT! Posts: 589	On a side note, could you put a keg in a propane locker? Sometimes it is more important to have beer than hot food.

14-07-2009, 00:32	#12
captain58sailin Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Homer, AK is my home port Boat: Skookum 53' "Rose Posts: 413	I kind of like skunky beer. I am going to search out those small kegs, when I start brewing on the boat, I'll want to minimize the amount of monkeying around, it would be so much easier just to put it into a nice keg. Which means I will have to engineer a cooler for the keg, who needs a refrigerator for food anyway? __________________ "When you sit down to eat with the devil it is wise to use a long handled spoon"

14-07-2009, 03:32	#14
Dockhead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 335	Cans are more practical, obviously. Easier to dispose of (garbage is always a problem on a cruising boat). Much lighter, so much easier to carry to the boat. Don't break (broken glass a big PITA on board -- I'll never forget a cockpit floor covered in blood from the interaction between my bare feet and shards from a broken beer bottle, when sailing in a heavy Meltemi wind in Turkey when I just couldn't leave the helm to put on shoes). But in many locales, you can't get the local beer in anything but bottles. In the Caribbean, sometimes tiny little bottles which are a PITA (one gulp each). So you take what you can get.

14-07-2009, 04:49	#15
Don Lucas Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Salem MA Boat: Cal 39 - D & D Posts: 485	Glass bottles are best!!!! But have to settle for cans or plastic for the boat.

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