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Old 17-01-2016, 04:17   #46
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Re: Rice and other long-term rations storage

We used bay leaves and only had a problem once and we did buy stuff in out-of-the-way places (with strange sounding names). This of course is not a scientific study so you pay for money and take your choice.
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Bay leaves do not work at keeping foods bug free.
Nor do they make the boat smell nicer!

But some local things might: in Grenada they grow vanilla and sell is 20 beans for $10!

I have a vanilla bean here and there and the boat smells beautiful


Btw if u have weevil infested rice just chuck it in cold water and the weevil come to the surface and u scoop them out. Boil as normal. (This may sound revolting but before going on my low carb diet the addiction to carbs was so strong we had to eat rice. Crazy.)
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Nor do they make the boat smell nicer!

But some local things might: in Grenada they grow vanilla and sell is 20 beans for $10!

I have a vanilla bean here and there and the boat smells beautiful


Btw if u have weevil infested rice just chuck it in cold water and the weevil come to the surface and u scoop them out. Boil as normal. (This may sound revolting but before going on my low carb diet the addiction to carbs was so strong we had to eat rice. Crazy.)
Yuck!

Cheap vanilla beans though!
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Re: Rice and other long-term rations storage

Two words: parboiled rice (aka converted rice).

See #3 at: Best airtight Food containers


See #7 at: How do you stock your galley when not cruising?
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Two words: parboiled rice (aka converted rice).

See #3 at: Best airtight Food containers


See #7 at: How do you stock your galley when not cruising?
It was parboiled rice that had bugs and moths in it within only a few days of purchase. I think finding grains that don't have the potential to hatch bugs is almost impossible, unless you want to go down the route of irradiated foods. My rule of thumb now is 'don't store more than can be used in a few weeks'.
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Re: Rice and other long-term rations storage

Freezing rice at 0F or for a long time has worked for me

but I wonder, would baking the rice also work?
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Freezing rice at 0F or for a long time has worked for me

but I wonder, would baking the rice also work?
Freezing works because the eggs don't hatch at that temperature. So keeping dry goods frozen until ready to prepare is a good idea.

Almost nothing kills weevil eggs in my experience. Freezing temps or lack of oxygen will prevent hatching though. If freezing killed all weevil eggs then Canadian grains would surely be free of weevils. The microwave oven does not kill the eggs either.

Nature has found some amazing ways for insects to survive in truly hostile conditions.
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Stu, u amazed me with that tip on sucking the last few O2 molecules out. never thought of that. Since u are very scientifically inclined....smile... How many inches of vacuum do you think u achieved. He he.
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CF members, I just dig the kind of information that is freely shared on this forum. This was a very good thread for me to digest ( no pun intended). Thanks guys and gals.

Ex racer and 1-2 week charter guys rarely worry about this stuff. Let me put this on the long list of things to bone up on before divesting myself of land.
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CF members, I just dig the kind of information that is freely shared on this forum. This was a very good thread for me to digest ( no pun intended). Thanks guys and gals.

Ex racer and 1-2 week charter guys rarely worry about this stuff. Let me put this on the long list of things to bone up on before divesting myself of land.
Loads of great information here, enjoy your research!
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Re: Rice and other long-term rations storage

Buzzstar,

If you check back in here, there's more about the "preppie" foods on a thread about foods started about a week or so ago. Sorry, don't remember the name of it.

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Re: Rice and other long-term rations storage

Flour goes stale in storage so is not a good one to store 'just in case' otherwise I would just say go for decent storage containers. The plastic on most single use containers is to light and gets cracks if you try to use it long term.
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Flour goes stale in storage so is not a good one to store 'just in case' otherwise I would just say go for decent storage containers. The plastic on most single use containers is to light and gets cracks if you try to use it long term.
I've almost never had a problem with stale flavor, and kept stuff for many years, I think if you do something to remove excess Oxygen that would never be a problem. 2 and 3 liter pop bottles last through all kinds of punishment, you'd be hard pressed to hurt one other than a permanent crease without a sharp knife.
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Re: Rice and other long-term rations storage

Mat, rats, critters all know how to chew through ziplock bgs, which do a poor job of keeping things air-tight anyway. Even the "freezer" grade are air-permeable.


But you can get all sorts of pasta sauce and "canned" peaches, etc. in the store, in jars that are basically mason cars with one-piece lids. That, or real mason jars, does the best job of really sealing things up. (And stands up by itself.)


Putting a couple of bay leaves (which AFAIK are simply laurel leaves sold at $1200 per pound ?! once they get to the spice shelf) into a bag of flour or rice is also supposed to discourage or kill weavils and other small critters. Never heard anything but praise for it, fwiw.
Microwaving, or hard freezing, will also kill critters, but a couple of bay leaves are simpler. Now, if you have paprika on board...UGH. Do critters like to get into that! Seal it up tight, and that's one you might very well want to microwave unless you've bought it from a very reputable source.
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True, rats can gnaw through anything but metal; and will. Need to make sure your boat is rodent free and stays that way. And, no, a housecat will only help just so much.
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