No refrigeration...your advice?

[Maren]

Originally Posted by lilpirate45

Just wanted to post what I said I would about a book.
it is called Offshore cruising encyclopedia by Steve and Linda Dashew.

Oh THAT book. 'Instant Classic' was how a friend described it. 'Heavy as sin' was the way another did.

A good way to distill 40 years of experience.

[brian and clare]

Of all the cases of food poisoning, how many are from the late nite kebab? :O)

[Falcon]

have not gotten to the end of the article so i appologise if there is a repeat

Mountain House: The Shelf Life of pouches and #10 cans.

sells freeze dried food extreemly long shelf life not need to refrigirate just add watter had several pouches as a treat when I was backpacking in canada and it tasted incredible

[Louis Riel]

I can everything from Bear, to Moose , to Venison to Bacon to turkey sausages. Buy a big canner , Scrapyards sell canners that retail for lotsa cash, for scrap aluminiunm prices. You then only have to buy a few parts.

[Einarr]

I personally like the idea of sailing with out the need for refrigeration.
I grew up on a farm and the frige was used only for storing drinks, left overs and a few condiments, Nost everything that we used came out of Ball canning jars, meat included.
It is my understanding that glass on a sailboat is a hazard, I think that most will agree. While I was reading through this list of threads I had an idea for easy storage of glass canning jars, it could also ba adapted to storing tin canned goods as well.
It is actually very simple;
*Take a cardboard box and line it with wax paper or plastic sheeting.
*Cut and fit a 1/2" closed cell foam pad in the bottom of the box. (Camping section, blue faom sleeping bag pads, $5-8 dollars, should be enough for 5-6 containers.)
*Take quart jars, pint jars or can of the size that you use, fill them with sand and place then in the box in such a way as to get the most in it but leave 1/2" to 1" of space between them so they are not touching.
*Now wrap all of them individually in wax paper or plastic to cover the sides and bottoms.
*Take a can or two of the cheap expanding spray foam and fill the voids in the box up to 1" short of the top of the containers or just below the shoulder of the container.
*Do this slowly in layers so only the expanded foam reaches the required level.
*Let the whole mess sit until the foam is dried, a day or three.
*Remove the containers from the foam.
*Remove the foam from the box.
You now have a prefit anti-vibration container for glass jars.
Since you write on the tops of Ball jars anyway this method will work great for bilge spaces.
It aint pretty but it will work.
For those of you who want it pretty, you will have to take a hot wire cutter and even off the top of the foam after you have removed the containers and the foam is dry.
In an additional not, this would work for a perment storage instillation as well.
Additional reserve floatation??

[Maren]

Originally Posted by Einarr

It is my understanding that glass on a sailboat is a hazard, I think that most will agree
....
While I was reading through this list of threads I had an idea for easy storage of glass canning jars, it could also ba adapted to storing tin canned goods as well.

That's a nice idea. I suppose you could also top it with bit more of the camping pad with cutouts for a clean surface.

Do they make lexan jars? I have almost zero experience with canning.

[GordMay]

Net Bottle Sleeves. Free at the liquor store.

[Einarr]

Originally Posted by Maren

That's a nice idea. I suppose you could also top it with bit more of the camping pad with cutouts for a clean surface.

Do they make lexan jars? I have almost zero experience with canning.

Believe it or not I just googled - lexan food containers - they actually make them.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Einarr

Believe it or not I just googled - lexan food containers - they actually make them.

I would be careful about using "Lexan" food containers.

Often you can identify these Polycarbonate (“Lexan”)containers by the number seven in the triangular recycling symbol on the bottom of the container.

BPA is a synthetic chemical that is a building block of polycarbonate.
BPA mimics the human hormone estrogen, and is a potential endocrine disruptor.
Although it has previously been considered that migration of bisphenol A (BPA) from these products, at serving temperatures, is minimal; on April 15th 2008, Health Canada formally designated Bisphenol-A or BPA as a “dangerous (toxic) substance”.

[Maren]

Originally Posted by GordMay

I would be careful about using "Lexan" food containers.

Let me see if I have this right.

On a fiberglass or epoxy boat with all the chemicals of production, diesel for fuel, petrol for the outboard, propane for cooking, acid batteries, cleaning agents, paint, bug spray, plus what ever sundry chemicals are to be found about the boat, all the food items previously mentioned in post 150, mercury in fish, etc I should also worry about Lexan too?


I'll take my response from Taming of the Shrew

Have I not in my time heard lions roar?
Have I not heard the sea puff'd up with winds
Rage like an angry boar chafed with sweat?
Have I not heard great ordnance in the field,
And heaven's artillery thunder in the skies?
Have I not in a pitched battle heard
Loud 'larums, neighing steeds, and trumpets' clang?
And do you tell me of a woman's tongue,
That gives not half so great a blow to hear
As will a chestnut in a farmer's fire?
Tush, tush! fear boys with bugs.(Act I, sc ii)

No, think I’ll pass on that one, thanks.

[Tempest245]

If I recall, Chichester's biggest thrill was to find that a flying fish had landed in his cockpit.

I always troll a fishing line or two....

[Georgiegirl]

Read Care and Feeding of Sailing Crew By Lin Pardey. Great book and loads of hints and tips on cool boxes and keeping ice.

[Trikona]

We do this with quart sized water bottles... once it melts you have ice cold drinking water! The quart size makes configuring your cooler or ice box easier than using something larger, but is still big enough to last a good long while.

Originally Posted by BC Mike

Freeze your beer on land and use it as blocks of ice. Drink when thawed.
Michael

[Therapy]

Originally Posted by Trikona

We do this with quart sized water bottles... once it melts you have ice cold drinking water! The quart size makes configuring your cooler or ice box easier than using something larger, but is still big enough to last a good long while.

Ditto.

Only we use Liter Saline bottles used in the OR. They are square and stack with less wasted space. They do not leak and do not break.

Beer tastes better though.

[Mahana]

Ocean Spray cranberry juice containers are my favorite: They are rectangular and made of plastic that survives many freezing events.

The last time I saw a saline bottle in OR I was on the receiving end and it looked more like a bag- or maybe that was the food poisoning...