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Old 01-02-2012, 14:02   #46
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jersey cow

What size boat do you reckon I'll need to bring my little house cow along? Maybe I can find a powdered cow...is that a breed?

Gonna be in Cuba in a couple of weeks for work, curious to see what they have on the shelf there. Thanks for the tips on whole milk powder.

When I go for a week or two cruising, I take a couple of jars of my whole jersey milk. I'm not a big milk drinker, but washing down a BLT in the summer (home cured bacon, of course) with some ice cold jersey milk, plus Oreos, etc.is a treat. I keep White Russian fixins' on board too, as the fresh milk makes a great cocktail. dude.

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IIRC Slocum had a goat for a while, but it ate his charts.

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Re: Milk - anyone know a tasty brand of milk powder ?

Every year when the goats are freshened we start drinking goat's milk. It doesn't taste very good for the first few days . . . then you get used to it. After a few days the palate adjusts to whatever you are drinking unless it is horrid. When we stop drinking goats milk cow's milk tastes funny.
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mmmm. chart-fed goat curry. A goat would starve on today's boats.

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Re: Milk - anyone know a tasty brand of milk powder ?

Nido and KLIM (spell it backwards) are both Nestle products and in fact they are the SAME product, one sold in central american markets, the other in south american markets. This according to Nestle-US, who told me some time ago that they do not sell either to the North American market but folks are importing them (both brands) up here anyway.

Both apparently come in "whole milk" and "even more milkfat" varieties, also chocolate, and the packages are sometimes labelled only in Spanish, sometimes in Spanish and English. Funny thing, in my local supermarket they have both brands, both labels, and if you buy the bilingual label the cans cost MORE with the only difference being a "gringo penalty" for buying the product with English on the label. Hmmm.

Lin, those products are about as good as it gets. You'll be hard pressed to find any powdered whole milk in general distribution in the US market. All you can do is make it up--with filtered or distilled water or boiled water that has cooled--and let it age for a couple of hours before you drink it.

With the milkman being replaced by the corner convenience store and refrigeration being common...the market for powdered whole milk in the US is practically gone. Which is why we get "gray market" Klim and Nedo, but none intended to be sold here, none at all.

By the way, soy milk (Silk) and almond milk (from the Blue Diamond cooperative) both keep way longer than regular milk in the fridge. I've found that the almond milk will easily last A MONTH in the fridge after being opened, way past the sell-by date. I don't drink the stuff, but sometimes cook with it or turn my usual black coffee into a cup of candy. And at least that way, the almond milk is perfectly satisfactory. A six to eight week life (after purchase, opened halfway through that) is a nice bonus.

And no, that shelf life isn't courting problems, I don't risk bad food. The stuff just doesn't rot like milk does.
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+1 for UHT

The tetra packs fold down nicely and can be sent for recycling.
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The tetra packs fold down nicely and can be sent for recycling.
errr.. where exactly?

None of the recycle programs in the Bay Area take them. They are mixed media and as such can't compost or recycle as paper or plastic. They have to be sent to dedicated sites that specialize in processing the paks.
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Mama's milk ; -)
Ah, Mama's milk. You gotta love the containers that stuff comes in.
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errr.. where exactly?

None of the recycle programs in the Bay Area take them. They are mixed media and as such can't compost or recycle as paper or plastic. They have to be sent to dedicated sites that specialize in processing the paks.
Australia does, Japan does, I cant speak for other countries because I havent been there,

Customs, also accept all rubbish off boats, They actually take it away for you,
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Re: Milk - anyone know a tasty brand of milk powder ?

Check into it. It looks like a pretty slick snow job to me. Only something like 18% of the paks get "recycled". The paks must be sent to dedicated processing plants. And how they get actually recycled and reused seems to be under debate as well.

Not a straight forward deal, so if you are buying the paks don't be thinking that when you put them out to be recycled with the rest of your stuff that they actually are.
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errr.. where exactly?

None of the recycle programs in the Bay Area take them. They are mixed media and as such can't compost or recycle as paper or plastic. They have to be sent to dedicated sites that specialize in processing the paks.

BC and Alberta recycles them.

Here are the BC locations

Tetra Paks (refundable) | myRecyclopedia - Recycling in the Capital Regional District
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Why not use UHT milk instead of powdered? It's slightly harder to store, but soooo much tastier, and lasts just as long. And you don't have to mix it, and it comes with its own water. A real boon for cruisers, IMHO.
I agree, but then I have a full keeler. UHT milk is fine...keep a litre on the go and a litre in reserve, but save the powder for cooking. I drink milk "straight" pretty rarely these days, and when in the tropics, I can see drinking it less often than now, but my son downs a half-litre of 1% per day, so we may have to examine this provisioning more closely.

Never heard of Nido, have heard of Klim.
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Yeah the kid adds a whole new layer to provisioning.
I've already warned my son that the days of him getting a separate dinner from what his folks are eating are coming to an end. We will focus on whatever is delicious, nutritious and, ideally, can be made in one pot. And when it's gone, it's gone.
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I've never been able to choke down powdered milk, but I can just stomach UHT on something like cereal. By itself, forget it. About the only thing I like to have milk in is my coffee these days, and for that I can live with evaporated milk in the little tiny cans, believe it or not. To me it tastes better in coffee than UHT or powdered.
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ORGANIC VALLEY Individual aseptic cartons of real milk. No need to be refrigerated till ready to use. It is organic and taste good! I use this at home and will use it on the water. I buy it from amazon.com $24.05 using (subscribe and save)

Organic Valley Organic 1% Lowfat Single Serve Milk, 8-Ounce Aseptic Cartons (Pack of 24)
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Optimal balance between nutrition and convenience
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Can't get it here and haven't tried it but because it has ORGANIC on the lable it must be good.

Just the Aseptic puts me off.

Seriously Maxingout's suggestion of adding vanilla extract will help taste.
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