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Old 19-08-2010, 06:22   #1
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If the Galley Pump Breaks . . .

I have a 40 gallon stainless steel tank for fresh water - hidden beneath the 'V-berth' forward:

One big pipe going "In" from a deck fitting:

& a dimly seen (in-accessible) plastic pipe heading out from the bottom - toward the galley.

There is a brass "one handed" pump at the galley. Feels as if it binds a little yet pumps well.

My question is: what if that pump breaks?

I can see no simple way of getting fresh water out of the tank:

Drive a knife thru the top and siphon some?

Probabaly simpler to organise a 2nd method in port.

what do others do?

(I will be carrying some 20 litre plastic jugs, well-tied down & up)

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Old 19-08-2010, 06:29   #2
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Driving a knife through it will not allow you to syphon it.

Buy a spare hand pump, or get a portable bilge pump that you can attach to the tank outlet in case of emergency.
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Old 19-08-2010, 06:32   #3
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Maybe you can access the water through the deck fill pipe stick a hand pump suction tube down there or siphon that way rather than driving a knife through the top.
If you have an air pump like for dinghy tubes put the hose in the fill tank opening. Seal well with some wet rags or tape undo the hose at the brass pump inlet, pump air into the tank water should flow out of the hose if the tank is vented. It won't work unless you have a way to seal the vent.
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Old 19-08-2010, 06:42   #4
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Why can't you just disconnect the broken pump at the galley and connect a replacement?
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Old 19-08-2010, 10:54   #5
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Drill a hole that would fit the diameter of a plastic or rubber hose conected to a hand pump.

You dont even need to do it now if you have a cordless drill on boat.

Just drill when you have the said emergency.

Also whats the chance of a brass hand pump failing. OOOOOOPS! ******TOUCH WOOD!**************

Sorry!

OK other trick would be to disconect the hose below the sink and lket the water dribble into a cup in emergency.

If you need to last few liters chewing the plastic to make a hole would be a pleasurable activity

where that damn wood?
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im sure you have a dink air pump aboard. Rig that to the filler, pressurise the tank and water will keep flowing
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Excellent!

Yes!!! just fabricate a rubber doughnut to fit the filler neck and use dink pump... also get spare pump for sink.
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There is a brass "one handed" pump at the galley. Feels as if it binds a little yet pumps well.

My question is: what if that pump breaks?

I can see no simple way of getting fresh water out of the tank:
If you also have a pump in the head then I would use that

But if just the one might be sensible to carry a cheap spare hand pump - doesn't have to get properly plumbed in at the sink.

But if in a real emergency (transocean and no water?) I would cut the plastic hose near the tank - close enough that can drop the end to low level to let gravity do it's work but high enough so can be tied up above the water level - so gravity doesn't work A wooden bung and a jubilee clip should suffice as the back stop.............could install a tap in anticipation of that, but seems to me just one more thing to maintain / go wrong.

But no harm in cutting an access hatch (or 2?) in the tank top - could use to clean the tanks.

Good question though - on my boat the tanks are in the bilge keels - so no gravity to assist emptying - 2 pumps though .........both presently disconnected I'm on jugged water from the tap on the quay - but not a liveaboard so no great hassle............plan is to add another water tank. in due course
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My question is: what if that pump breaks?
we have a spare whale foot pump pre-installed (screwed to the sole under the sink).
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If it has an accessable clean-out, a small submersible bilge pump with long leads will do.
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You can get a small hand-operated water / gas / oil / etc transfer pump from an auto parts store for ten bucks.

I'd probably sterilize it and then store it and use it for nothing but fresh water.
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Uh..... overhaul the pump before it breaks?
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All you need is a connector for the water tubing and a spare length of tubing. Reach up under the galley counter top and disconnect the feed tube from the busted pump. Place a jug on the galley floor, then put your thumb over the tube end and bring the tube down toward the floor. If the tank is above floor level you will be able to siphon water out of the tank into the jug. If its lower you may need to put the jug into the bilge sump and then siphon into it, hence the need for some extra length.

Once the jug is full raise the end of the tube upwards and the flow will stop. Clip it to the galley railing and leave it there until you need more water. Stick a cork in it if you have one, or whittle one from a bit of wood.

Been there, done that.

If the tanks are in the bilge, then you won't be able to siphon, and will need a pump of some sort. A simple plastic gas transfer pump, about $5 at the local hardware store will do for emergency use.
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