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Old 10-09-2008, 22:09   #31
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instead of mre';s look at mountain house meals, they come in one gallon cans ( and single serve ) and are pretty good. they work out to about 3 bucks a serving. i really like em The World Leader in Innovative & Affordable Preparedness Gear

i like the beef stew, chile mac, and the chicken and rice. all you need to do is add boiling water

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The freezing temp of Wine (about 12.5% alcohol) lies in the range of -15 to -23 degrees F.
The more alcohol the lower the freezing point will be (Alcoholic beverages, such as Vodka with a higher alcohol content, or proof, has a much lower freezing point).

Pure Ethanol has a freezing point of aproximately -173 degrees farenhiet , whereas water will freeze at 32 degrees. The dilution of pure Alcohal, with water, will lower the solution's freezing point, on a nearly linear scale between the two.

Actualy wine will not fully solidify until it reaches -173 degrees; but will form into a semi-solid "slushy" state.
However it will begin to expand, when lowered to just 32 degrees, so don't freeze a sealed botle of wine, or it will crack the bottle.

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re freezing beer

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I ran adventure tours on the Cape York Penninsular in north Queensland for over six years during that time we always froze our beer. We had a pretty decent fridge for the food and would pre freeze cartons of beer and load them into an esky(cooler to US citizens and Chilly bin to the Kiwi's). This was so the food temp wasnt comprimised with 10 very thirsty dirt bike riders constantly opening the fridge to inhale beers at the end of the day. As the tour went on we would tend to eat the more perishable foods first (ckicken ,fish) and then move on to the cryovacked (vacume sealed) beef. As this happened we would load beer into the new space in the fridge at the start of the day when a full days running of the truck would allow the beer temp to be pulled down without sucking the batteries dry and load them into the esky at the end of the day.

We would fill the esky with frozen beer and leave just enough room for what we estimated we would drink the first day, and load in verry cold but unfrozen beer in that space. drink that beer that night next day chill some more in the new space left in the fridge that night load into esky by about the trird or fourth day all the beer in the esky was defrosted but still very very cold at which point we would start to get some ice and or load up the now pretty empty fridge.

The trick with freezing the beer is to (if youve got the room) load it into the freezer carton and all, or at least load a heap in at once and group it together so that it takes longer to freeze, in six years and an estimated 2160 cartons of beer we never had a complaint and burst half a dozen beers.
As a reformed full mash home brewer and beer nut i can vouch that as long as the beer is allowed to thaw properly the flavour is not affected.
Oh and if your stacking lots of beer and the rides a bit rough you can loose cans from rubbing very quickly keep them upright and tightly packed and every second layer turn upside down, this stops the base edge of the can punching the pull tab of the can below.

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Old 11-09-2008, 21:24   #34
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Originally Posted by kimberlydreamin View Post
We would fill the esky with frozen beer and leave just enough room for what we estimated we would drink the first day, and load in verry cold but unfrozen beer in that space.
So for my team that means no frozen beer...

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Some great things to bring with no refridgeration:

- Red wine
- Boxed milk
- Boxed vanilla soy milk (good snack)
- Dark chocolate
- Popcorn (use olive oil and a pot to pop it)
- Instant soup (just add water... good for bad weather / lazy days)
- Instant oatmeal for breakfast
- Little breakfast cereal things. Combined with the small boxes of milk it makes a great, cool, refreshing breakfast.
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Boxes of different pasta and diced tomatoes or white clam sauce and a good selection of spices go a long ways.
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Check out the provisions lists on in the "downloadable EXEL files" section of this site


They are for long range crising, very extensive, and expensive, but might give you some more ideas.
If I were anywhere near Singapore I'd be living on Chilli Crab!
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