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05-04-2011, 20:12
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Re: Costco Canned Chicken . . . a Contender
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Wouldn't it be better to eat the eggs and leave the chicken alive to get more eggs????
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That is another thread smarty pants ; -)
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05-04-2011, 22:27
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Re: Costco Canned Chicken . . . a Contender
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Wouldn't it be better to eat the eggs and leave the chicken alive to get more eggs????
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There's not enough room in the can for both the chicken and the eggs.
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06-04-2011, 05:24
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Re: Costco Canned Chicken . . . a Contender
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Originally Posted by SvenG
There's not enough room in the can for both the chicken and the eggs.
-Sven
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But if there was room enough, which would come out first, the chicken or the egg?
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06-04-2011, 05:33
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Re: Costco Canned Chicken . . . a Contender
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But if there was room enough, which would come out first, the chicken or the egg?
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would depend on which end you opened if the lable had washed off,
as i know they force the chicken in head first,so the egg pops out under compression.......... that way you just pull the leg to get it out the tin.......
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06-04-2011, 05:42
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Re: Costco Canned Chicken . . . a Contender
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Originally Posted by atoll
as i know they force the chicken in head first,so the egg pops out under compression.......... that way you just pull the leg to get it out the tin.......
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Do the nautical versions come with a painter or lanyard to pull and a self-inflating tin?
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06-04-2011, 10:19
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Re: Costco Canned Chicken . . . a Contender
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i know they force the chicken in head first
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If you are sailing in the Northern hemisphere.
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06-04-2011, 10:57
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Re: Costco Canned Chicken . . . a Contender
You guys are obviously ignorant of the physics involved here. This preposterous "Chicken in a Can" proposal will never work. In fact it will be extremely dangerous. For the same reason they have to kill the sardines *before* they seal them in the can, canning a live chicken would lead to a critical build-up of pressure due to heating, caused by the exothermic nature of the biological processes that occur in *any* living organism. My calculations show that a noticeable bulge will occur within 30 minutes of sealing the can. If nothing is done to release the pressure, inside of two hours the can will explosively vent with enough force to possibly rupture your vessel's hull.
It is also quite likely that the explosion will kill the chicken, as it is forced through the initially small rupture. So much for your fresh eggs!
It's sad how few people have any understanding of the physics of everyday life. I would have expected better from my fellow sailors.
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06-04-2011, 11:33
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Re: Costco Canned Chicken . . . a Contender
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I would have expected better from my fellow sailors.
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and you've been a Member here for how long???
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06-04-2011, 14:52
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Re: Costco Canned Chicken . . . a Contender
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..... canning a live chicken would lead to a critical build-up of pressure due to heating, caused by the exothermic nature of the biological processes that occur in *any* living organism.
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Schrodinger's chicken? You'll never know if it's alive or dead until you open the can.
Mind you, given some canned goods I tried, I suspect it *was* still alive when they canned it......
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06-04-2011, 15:07
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Re: Costco Canned Chicken . . . a Contender
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Originally Posted by mintyspilot
Schrodinger's chicken? You'll never know if it's alive or dead until you open the can.
Mind you, given some canned goods I tried, I suspect it *was* still alive when they canned it......
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No... I suspect it is his egg... You know the chicken is in there... but you don't know until you open it if an egg has been laid...
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07-04-2011, 01:47
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Re: Costco Canned Chicken . . . a Contender
So..... back on topic ( since I seem to have steered it off topic) ..... in the UK buy Tesco & Fray Bentos, in the US buy CostCo
Howzat for a summary?
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07-04-2011, 01:57
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Re: Costco Canned Chicken . . . a Contender
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Originally Posted by mintyspilot
So..... back on topic ( since I seem to have steered it off topic) ..... in the UK buy Tesco & Fray Bentos, in the US buy CostCo
Howzat for a summary?
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10-04-2011, 13:07
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Re: Costco Canned Chicken . . . a Contender
"I'll even give you a recipe.
Chop 1 onion and 1 carrot & cook 15 mins on low heat with your preferred spices, maybe garlic & 1/2 tsp chili. Add 1 cup gravy mix or gravy plus red wine if you have any left. Open a can of Costco beef and break the chunks into smaller pieces adding them to the pot. Cook 10 mins more on low heat or until the carrot is soft. Serve with whatever carbs you have, rice, pasta, red beans or mashed potato."
This is one of our best last minute meals after a rough passage, we serve over instant mashed potatoes.
The canned chicken I use for everything from soup to salads to enchiladas!
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11-04-2011, 03:49
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Re: Costco Canned Chicken . . . a Contender
Thanks Janice - definitely sounds like it is worth a go.
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15-04-2011, 06:41
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Re: Costco Canned Chicken . . . a Contender
OK - at huge risk to my health and sanity I have been out and bought the Fray Bentos "Tender Steak" offering (see below). The tin promises "succulent pieces of steak, nothing else" but would it SHOULD have promised was "a couple of pieces of steak and nothing else".
It comes in a tin with no paper or cardboard. You slice the top of the tin and place in the oven (picture 2) at 220C for 30 minutes. It then comes out looking like picture 3 with the puff pastry well "puffed".
Not knowing what myself and Mrs Minty were in for we went for chips, mushrooms, peas and granary bread and we divided the "pie" in half. To be more precise, we divided the puff crust in half, had a couple of small pieces of meat each together with a large helping of floury beef gravy (picture 4).
Verdict:
Apart from the lack of actual meat, it was otherwise OK flavour-wise. I could see how this would work in an "emergency" when all other supplies are gone. The packaging is simple, the cooking is simple and it is actually edible especially if you have something to dip in the copious gravy.
Score: 4/10 - convenience, 2 year lifespan in the tin, edible, s*d all meat.
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