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Old 08-12-2013, 09:43   #1
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Cheeseburger in Paradise

Are there really good cheeseburgers in Paradise? I ask as I just came back from Cancun and the "American" cheeseburgers were, well they just sucked. The texture and taste was a lot different almost to the point of making your think "this isn't really beef is it". In my normal travels when I stop for lunch somewhere new and can not decide what to have I figure it is safe to just get a cheeseburger. I have found that for the most part it is pretty hard to mess up a cheeseburger, but I wonder if this doesn't translate to other countries.

I would think that a cheeseburger would vary mostly in the cheese from place to place, as beef is beef! But is it possible that the part of the steer that gets ground-up for hamburger (I understand it called minced beef in some places) is different resulting is a completely different patty for ones burger.

So I ask you world cruisers, are there good cheeseburgers out there? Or are cheeseburgers a very very regional taste depending on there you are?
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Old 08-12-2013, 10:04   #2
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Re: Cheeseburger in Paradise

They exist, but they are few and far between.

Beef is definitely not Beef. Particularly in the Caribbean, where the cattle graze on cactus, nettles, dried roadside grass and anything else they can find. They have no fattening in their diet, the meat is not aged and the butchers simply hack at a carcass with a machete with no concept of providing different types of "cuts". Caribbean beef is almost inedible. The French islands are an exception, as well as a few French or German expats who set up small butcher businesses in some places. If do you find those small expat shops, you will be writing a similar post as this one about the poor quality of US beef!

Goat, on the other hand is excellent in the same locales with the same diet and butchering techniques.

Of course, it depends on your definition of paradise. Chicago may be the bee's knees for some.

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Re: Cheeseburger in Paradise

I'm a Key Wester and my take on the "cheeseburger in paradise" thing is that it was a slap in the face at tourists being down here and eating what they are used to eating (cheesburgers) as they stick to what's in their comfort zone.
I'm not sure if that is what was intended by Jimmy Buffet of whoever started that saying but in real life there is alot of truth to my take on the phrase regardless.
Cheeseburgers and many types of food suck here in Key West.

Now Conch salads and fish sandwiches on the otherhand are amazing here but they suck in Buffalo, NY.

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Goat, on the other hand is excellent in the same locales with the same diet and butchering techniques.

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Cheeseburgers at Bandito's in La Paz, BCD, Mexico make me want to go back there just for the food. I swear it's not for the warm weather or the clear water or the friendly people or the tranquillo lifestyle, or the cool grill made out of a classic Chevy pickup.
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Re: Cheeseburger in Paradise

There is an excellent little restaurant on Cabbage Key, in Pine Island Sound, southwest Florida. They serve a really good cheeseburger, Jimmy Buffet has definitely been there, and some people believe the song is a tribute to that restaurant. On the other hand, I have also heard that Buffet was on a boat traveling through the Caribbean, getting tired of the rather drab galley fare, and wrote the song as he was dreaming about finding a good cheeseburger somewhere.

Now that Buffet is a part owner of a chain of restaurants named "Cheeseburger in Paradise" I think it is highly unlikely that he would admit that the song is about some other restaurant.
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Cheeseburgers at Bandito's in La Paz, BCD, Mexico make me want to go back there just for the food. I swear it's not for the warm weather or the clear water or the friendly people or the tranquillo lifestyle, or the cool grill made out of a classic Chevy pickup.
I'd say The Shack in La Paz! Highly recommended.

Also, not in "Tropical" Paradise, but paradise in it's own right is the Hummingbird Pub on Galiano Island in the British Columbia Gulf Islands. The free ride to the pub in the Hummingbird bus from Montague Harbour is a hoot too.
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That's like asking if a Taco in Mexico is the same as the Pap in a Wrap you get from Taco Bell...
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Re: Cheeseburger in Paradise

A good burger is a very complex and scientific matter. First, you need not only good beef, with appropriate marbling and aging, but also the appropriate grind, or texture. The patty must not be too tightly compressed--just loosely formed but enough to stay together. Then there's the fixin's--the bun, condiments, and toppings. Then there's the cooking method. Then there is the big question of how well done the beef should be. The best burger will be medium rare, but most North American's fear that for some pretty good reasons.

The best burgers I've ever eaten--and I've eaten burgers in quite a few parts of the world-- were found in Palma de Mallorca, Spain. Medium rare; delicious!

Yes, some risk, but in Europe they've had more problems with the lettuce than with ground beef, or mince as the Brits call it.
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Re: Cheeseburger in Paradise

The best cheeseburger in paradise I"ve ever had cost a pretty penny. I bought a prime cut of meat and had it ground and cooked it myself. The butcher thought we were nuts having him grind up a very expensive cut of marbled beef!!!
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Re: Cheeseburger in Paradise

It's been a while but we went to a place on Virgin Grorda in the BVI that was a burger stand on the water. It was a short boat taxi ride from the Bitter end yacht club. I remember it being good and don't remember anything negative about it at all. If you are at the bitter end yacht club you can see the place across the bay and if you ask any of the staff how to get to the "burger in paradise" they will get you a ride over. This was 12 years ago though so who knows if it's still there or how the quality still is.
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Re: Cheeseburger in Paradise

You're rolling the dice when you eat burgers from an unknown source. The meat industry in South Africa is well regulated or so we thought. One of our universities did random tests of minced beef from a number of leading supermarket chains and found that many were made up in part other animals, such as goat, donkey, horse, and pork. I kid you not. They had their co. spokespersons vowing to get to the bottom of it, but it eventually all went away.
I doubt that most of us would taste the difference if there was say 10% donkey in your burger.
You are what you eat. 10% an ass, some of us a bit more.
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Re: Cheeseburger in Paradise

You are rolling the dice when you eat burgers from known sources. The US regularly has dangerous e. coli outbreaks in packaged ground beef.

I have no problem with goat, donkey, rat, oppossum, etc meat in my burgers. Particularly if the meats and proportions were carefully chosen to enhance my dining experience…

I do draw the line at mixing in infectious strains of bacteria, though.

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