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captainKJ · 20-09-2011, 19:59

Another way to kneed the bread is by using a hobart mixer, (575 watts at 110 voltage) total time less than 15 minutes or using a quisinart. Makes pasta dough that way also. The quisinart mixes the dough into a ball. less than 5 minutes running time.

zeehag · 20-09-2011, 20:20

"Okay, what did you put in the brownies? "

didnt even put rum in em--usually i substitute booze for the water in mixes......

Sailor g · 20-09-2011, 20:49

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Originally Posted by zeehag

kilowatt is 1000 watts.
to have a breadmaker on board i would have to buy a few more solar panels and a wind genny. and a bunch more batteries.......methinks i will continue to do it the old fashioned way.....

The old fashion way is great but I love waking up with the smell of the machine baking the bread (YUM cinnamon raisin!) vs ME up doing it 

We love our 1 lb. Zoj bread machine too! We use it off the inverter at anchor & recharge r batteries with solar panels. HWMPU (he who monitors my power usage) says it uses between only 2-5 amps (on 110) during the mixing & baking cycle (the rising time is only a click ticking). You can smell it boats away-makes friends .

svBeBe · 21-09-2011, 01:01

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Originally Posted by sarafina

That was .35 KWH for the total cycle.

No kidding!!! I haven't measured ours, but I know the machine uses very few amp hours. How could anyone think these little bread machines use as much energy as some have stated. The machines simply have a small motor that kneads dough for several minutes; rests (using NO power); then kneads again for several minutes; then rests again. Then a tiny heating element that heats for 30 minutes. Our boat is 240v. There is no significant battery % drop in our house battery bank when the bread machine is used on the 1800w inverter.

Judy
S/V BeBe

osirissail · 21-09-2011, 05:23

Well, like everything else on boats, there are big ones and little ones. A 2.5 lb full featured bread machine with triple rise and multiple mix/knead cycles is logically going to use a lot more electricity than its little 1 lb cousin. Sort of follows the keep it simple and small philosophy. And most certainly the lowest power method is the old do it by hand method. No electricity needed, just some propane/alcohol for the stove/oven.
- - From the comments/posts so far, I would hazard the thought that the smaller machines are used more since they are simpler and less of a power hog.

Auspicious · 21-09-2011, 06:04

Perhaps the technology has changed since I last tried a bread machine. I found that it took about 5 more minutes of work to make bread by hand. I also found that water consumption cleaning the machine was more than necessary to clean up after making bread by hand.

Fresh bread is great whenever you have it.

osirissail · 21-09-2011, 06:41

Actually, yes the technology probably has changed. The newer machines are computer controlled and you can set each process/stage of the bread making operation to suit the bread and your desires. All of which usually means more power requirements when compared to the older/original machines. New machines can make "horizontal" loaves versus the old vertical ones. So it can be a great convenience to "let the machine" do the work which you snooze or attend to meditating your navel on the foredeck.
- - On the other hand, getting back to basics and cooking, baking, etc. from scratch by hand is one of the great joys of the cruising lifestyle. You are creating your meals/foods yourself rather than having some machine or factory do it.
- - In the Bahamas the bread is economical because you get plenty of weight for your money. The stuff is like wooden boards. And dinner rolls are totally unknown. So when I baked dinner rolls myself from scratch, boy where they great. Took them over to share at another boat and they disappeared real fast. There was a great feeling of satisfaction - I made those . . .

Sailor g · 21-09-2011, 06:46

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Originally Posted by Auspicious

Perhaps the technology has changed since I last tried a bread machine. I found that it took about 5 more minutes of work to make bread by hand. I also found that water consumption cleaning the machine was more than necessary to clean up after making bread by hand.

Fresh bread is great whenever you have it.

It takes us less water cleaning up when we use our machine since I use the same container to mix & bake. No mixing bowls-only 1 pan (that comes out pretty clean) the size of a loaf of bread and a small beater. Another reason to love it.

Amapola · 23-09-2011, 12:52

I bought a great Oster at a thrift store and keep it on board. It doesn't use much power and works off our inverter. If you travel to the Caribbean, bread is not always available. If you have the space it's the only way to go.

**Hud3** · 23-09-2011, 13:19

Microship's post about no-knead bread got me inspired. I Googled it and found the NY Times recipe. Just tried it today. Some of the best artisan-style bread I've ever put in my mouth. Wonderful crust, soft and chewy inside, with a great flavor. It won't last long around here!

Lots of elapsed time (22 hours) but not much actual hands on work. The oven was on at 450* F for almost 1-1/2 hours, so it did suck up a bit of propane.