Originally Posted by Wavewacker
I'm looking at boat listings, 30 to 36 feet or a really well laid out 27ish up. Can't count the times I have read, galley to port, in this size seems boats are laid out about the same. Must be a reason for it, besides the engineering side there is the fact that production boats are made for the market not so much what might meet particular needs.
I'm not crazy about having part of the galley as a step from the cockpit! Seems what ever the mess is outside is on your shoes or feet and then you step where you may need to make a sandwich or lay utencils. I'm not a germ freak but I don't walk barefoot on my kitchen counters.
What makes a good galley design for you? Do you need a double sink? Are shelves and containers handier than drawers? How many burners do you need for a cruising couple, 1, 2, 3 or 4? Should the microwave be a tiny coffee heater or your oven
? Should a fridge be built in or is a top loading type slide out be better? Freezers seem rare on the 30 to 40 footers, do you need one....really use it? Butcher block, formica, tile, stainless or stone counter tops?
Best design, U, L or a straight galley?
What makes a dream galley on a mid size sailboat?
Lots of questions, just choose one or all! Got Pics????
I feel your pain. My boat, which I live on, is a Cal
2-27 and it is sort of an archetype for cabin
layouts in mass produced boats of that size range. The galley sucks. In the slip, in any sort of decent weather
I prep and cook outside. Got crockpot, hotplate, electric
pressure cooker, and Magma propane
. I hate cooking
on what like you said is the top companionway
step! The original stove is alcohol and needs a rebuild
but I am gonna dumpster it. The original sink is smaller than some shoeboxes and is worthless to me. The icebox
? Naaaah. Right now I have an electric refrigerator
, one of the dinky cube type, that works great when I am on shore power
. The icebox
is soon to get ripped out to make room for... other stuff.
The first major modification I made was to rip out the forward half of the port side settee and the dining table, and build a shower
there. The new head
will be in there, too, when I get to it, and where the old one is will become my mini-office. The next thing I do will be to install a BIG sink, like what you would hand wash clothes in. Big enough for any sort of food
prep or dishwashing or any sort of cleaning
chore, with shoreside fresh, tank fresh, or seawater available on tap. That will be right on the forward side of the shower
enclosure. And of course there goes another piece of the port settee! Well, in for a dime, in for a dollar. Next to the sink will be a bit of counter space over pot and pan storage
, and a space for a small diesel/kerosene/gasoline capable pump stove, one of the cheapie "Butterfly" brand. They are cheap
enough to keep a spare or two. I will put that in a fully gimballed mount, of course. That takes care of most of the port side. Further aft, where the icebox is, will be space for a new fridge of some kind. Where the original galley is will be the floor of the pilothouse, when I build a new after bulkhead in line with the bridge deck
and raise part of the overhead to just clear the boom and vang. The starboard settee, which is too short for a real berth, will be lengthened and will provide easy access to the engine
No, the boat will no longer "sleep 6 adults in comfort", LOL! Well, it never did, as far as I am concerned, and I mostly sail alone or with one other person, so between the vee berth and the starboard settee I got it all covered. Most boats this size were never really optimized for liveaboard
or even cruising. They were made for taking 4 or 5 people out for a day sail or a beer
or for a couple to get away for a weekend. The galley was never really meant to be anything but a place to make coffee and wash the coffee pot and cups when done, and maybe, MAYBE whip up a quick omelet or a fried spam sandwich or something. The galleys SUCK for a liveaboard
or cruiser. Sinks, too small. Stove? Usually barely usable, and these days mostly propane
... worse than gasoline if you ask me, from a safety
perspective. Location? Terrible, especially the common setup where you step right where you would be chopping vegetables or slicing meat or kneading biscuit dough or making tortillas. For most singles or couples, the obvious solution is to move the entire business to one side or the other, and forget all about that "Sleeps Six Adults" nonsense. That means lots of sawing and fiberglass
work and a new through-hull or two. No shower? Start with that. A cockpit
shower is fine in the summer, but not so nice in the winter, and really... who wants to shower in a marina bathhouse? A 26 to 30 foot boat seldom has a shower, but is certainly big enough to have one. Then work from there. Let the new galley adjoin the shower/head, and plumb the sink and galley together. Put in a window that can be opened, to let cooking
This approach works great for a cheaply bought oldie-but-goodie fixer upper, because it isn't so painful to start cutting on an old wreck like that. Nobody wants to start cutting on a $150k boat with lots of beautiful wood inside, but if you got a much used and rough around the edges boat with the typical cabin
layout, make it your ideal boat! Just don't cut away anything structural. Gotta have a head
anyway, right? May as well use the same space for head and shower. Don't want a dozen people in your little 9-meter sloop
anyhow, right? Then you don't need to have seating for them. A little plywood
can make things right. Don't settle for the same tired old layout if it won't work for you.