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Old 14-05-2009, 12:52   #1
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12v Grain Mill

We are considering buying a 12V grain mill before we depart the US for the Med & S. Pacific. We are wondering 2 questions...

Is wheat grain readily available around the world? The flour goes rancid kind of fast, so we are hoping if we get some grain that it will keep better.

Also, do you have any experience with good 12V mills? We are looking at the Jupiter Grain Mill, but would be interested to know if there are other/better ones out there.

Thanks in advance.
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Flour and rice is so readily available around the world, I don't think there would be any advantage to having a grain mill onboard?
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We are considering buying a 12V grain mill before we depart the US for the Med & S. Pacific. We are wondering 2 questions...

Is wheat grain readily available around the world? The flour goes rancid kind of fast, so we are hoping if we get some grain that it will keep better.

Also, do you have any experience with good 12V mills? We are looking at the Jupiter Grain Mill, but would be interested to know if there are other/better ones out there.

Thanks in advance.
I think your idea has merit, Peter, though David is right - you can find flour and rice wherever you travel. Still, I like your idea of milling your own flour from whole grain when, and as, you need it.

When it comes to grain storage, there probably isn't anything about it that the Mormons aren't born knowing. Here's an interesting read on the subject of storing grain, the debate centering on whether it's best to do so in the presence, or absence, of oxygen. Go to: Whole Grain Oxygen Debate - LDS Mormon Forums

Can't offer anything on the subject of 12v grain mills, but I'm sure others will come up with something.

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Old 14-05-2009, 17:29   #4
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The problem with "readily available" flour ,in the tropics,is that it is often contaminated with critters who will multiply tenfold by the middle of the next passage.Also its cleaned ,polished,bleached and empty,except for the artificial vitamins that have been added by regulation.I doubt that whole wheat grain is available in many tropical islands.So the question is,how well will wheat travel in a tropical marine enviroment?
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Once you've had freshly ground whole wheat bread just in terms of you'd never go back let alone the nutrient value. The whole grain will store better as grain than as flour but as with storing everything else, you've got to be diligent about how it's sealed & kept dry.
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We looked into getting a 12 volt or hand coffee grinder. EXPENSIVE!
Instead, we went with a $29 inverter and a $15 120volt coffee grinder.
Maybe it would grind wheat?

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we went with a $29 inverter and a $15 120volt coffee grinder.
Maybe it would grind wheat?
Probably not, but who cares? If you feel the need to grind your own flour stay home and grow it too.
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Have not made the S Pacific yet but around the Atlantic found natural food stores in all the larger towns like Nassau, Panama City, Rio. Have not sailed the Med been been to Europe and found natural food stores everywhere.

Let me know if you find a good, portable grinder. Sounds interesting. I have seen a hand machine that consisted of grinding stones attached to what looked like a standard meat grinder.
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I baked all my bread until we moved to Europe. In Europe the bread is so good and freshly made, much of it with whole grains, that it is easier and usually better than what one can bake.

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We grind our own grains for better health and because we like to be more independent with regard to our food supply. I can't speak to availability in different places.

We have a Family Grain Mill which appears to be the same thing as the Jupiter but is manual. It can be tiring to grind manually, and we typically do a double-grind (course, then fine). It looks like it could be easily driven by a hex bit in a drill, but we haven't tried it. Aside from that, we have no complaints about the mill and would buy it again. We also use a Vita-Mix blender to grind, but it needs a lot of power and would be overkill for that single purpose.

Grain is heavy. A 1-year supply for our family weighs about 450 lbs. And you need a good way to protect it from critters and moisture. A vacuum sealer is recommended.
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FWIW,
As a rule, it will usually be cheaper to buy an inverter and then be able to use conventional mains-powered tools of all sorts than to use low production specialist 12 volt gear. I think that this is especially true with regard to kitchen appliances.

As to availability of whole grain wheat in the Pacific islands, we've been cruising there for the last 20+ years, and have never seen such except in the "first world" fringes like Australia. Possibly in Noumea, which sports many excellent food products (the French do love their tucker!).

But wait... I bet you could mount some paddle wheels and a gear train to drive some big stone grinding wheels while under way! How green would that be???

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