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Old 07-08-2015, 12:32   #31
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Re: Why couldn't I turn to starboard ?

Originally Posted by macbeth View Post
Actually it's spelled "wear", because in square rigged ships, they used to do it a lot, with consequent "wear" on the rigging and spars.
I'm not sure about the etymology but i did spend a lot of time on square-rigged ships before getting into yachts and i don't think that sounds right. A wear would go something like this on a barque rig:

Slack the lee gear
Helm down
Brace around slowly
Tend Course sheets and tacks
Pass headsail sheets at the appropriate time
Carry on on new tack
(Spanker would have been taken in prior to the manoeuvre and re-set afterwards unless breeze was really light)

To tack:

Rise tacks and sheets on the courses, or bunt up (unless you've got loads of crew)
Slack lee gear
Let fly headsail sheets
Back spanker to windward
Helm hard over to starboard
Once foresails are backed, brace around main yards as far as possible without touching fore yards (phenomenal forces on the foremast at this point. The rigs aren't designed to take pressure from forward)
Helm hard over to port as you back down on the rudder
Brace Foreyards sharp on the starboard tack once the sails on the mainmast are drawing
Pass headsail sheets
Helm mid-ships
Brace Main yards sharp
Ease spanker sheets and gaff vang on the windward side

The former takes a lot of sea room, but is much easier (especially short-handed as the grain ships used to be). Wear on rigging is much high for a tack because the rig is minimally supported from forward and when the yards are braced sharp on opposite tacks there's a lot of chafe.

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Old 08-08-2015, 07:59   #32
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Re: Why couldn't I turn to starboard ?

Originally Posted by macbeth View Post
If the CEF was too far forward, unfurling the Genoa would have moved the CEF even further forward, making the situation worse ? Yet, using a Genoa is what most other posters seem to be suggesting ! I'm confused - who is right ? You or them ?

Also, wouldn't unfurling the Genoa have tended to push the bow even further to Port ?

Seems to me the CEF needed to be moved more to the stern so it was further sternwards than the CLR ?
Without analyzing anything about boat speed, wind speed, drag or anything else; think 'weather vane'.

Then proceed from there.

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Old 02-11-2015, 13:15   #33
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Re: Why couldn't I turn to starboard ?

Originally Posted by Scaramanga F25 View Post
You could " ware ship " in these conditions.
Search this on you tube.
eye yie yie! I thought a ketch looked bad! LOL Pretty cool stuff though.

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