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Old 20-08-2017, 18:53   #1
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US Navy Destroyer Collision Again!!!

Damage to port side aft. No word on injuries yet-

USS John McCain collides with merchant ship | Daily Mail Online
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Old 20-08-2017, 18:59   #2
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Re: US Navy Destroyer Collision Again!!!

Really???? Oh come on, guys.... The ocean just CANNOT be this small....
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I didn't know the John McCain was a destroyer, I have worked with it off the coast of Korea years ago.
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Old 20-08-2017, 19:12   #4
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_...McCain_(DDG-56)

Same as the Fitzgerald

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arle...lass_destroyer
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Re: US Navy Destroyer Collision Again!!!

Hope all are safe, on both vessels.

That may actually wake Navy leadership up.

Reported damage (Port/Aft) makes it a less likely this one is Navy give way colregs error.

But still, Navy Destroyer should NEVER be hit by commercial ship.
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WTF! We are better than that, I don't believe in coincidences, something is going on here...


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Thought they already did this.
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10 missing sailors according to:

Search and rescue under way for 10 missing sailors after US warship collision off coast of Singapore, United States News & Top Stories - The Straits Times
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Re: US Navy Destroyer Collision Again!!!

I've noticed that US warships really tear in and out of ports...they put the pedal down very early for some reason. And Singapore is not exactly a sleepy port. And it was dark. Obviously still should not happen, but speed and congestion rarely pair well together at night.
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Ten sailors are missing and five have been injured after warship USS John McCain collided with a merchant vessel in waters east of Singapore and the Straits of Malacca, the US Navy says.

The navy's 7th fleet said the USS John McCain sustained damage on its port side from the collision with the Alnic MC on Monday at 5:24am (local time).

Search and rescue efforts were underway in coordination with local authorities.
USS John McCain collides with merchant ship east of Singapore, 10 sailors missing, US Navy says - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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I've noticed that US warships really tear in and out of ports...they put the pedal down very early for some reason. And Singapore is not exactly a sleepy port. And it was dark. Obviously still should not happen, but speed and congestion rarely pair well together at night.

In some situations speed IS security - that may be a reason. Of course the use of speed increases, not decreases, the need for effective collision avoidance.
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After the gutting of the top brass and Chiefs over the last decade we have a pack of political yes men morons in charge. Oh goodie. See the results?
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I had a similar thought. Presumably discipline got tightened up significantly after the last incident.
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Should a DDG under steam ever be in a collision w/ a tanker? No.

But let's save the political commentary until the findings okay? The Navy has been underfunded and maintained low readiness because its been on the back burner since 9/11. 15+ years of continuous war without the country being really mobilized for war.

10 sailors are missing. Have some respect.
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