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Old 16-02-2015, 15:35   #61
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Old 16-02-2015, 15:39   #62
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Well, if their ultimate goal was Near-Certain Death, yeah, that might have been the ticket... ;-)

Those pleasant northwesterlies weren't gonna last even halfway to Bermuda, chances are they might have wound up right in the eye of the next low in the vicinity of the Stream... Yeah, that would have been sweet...

Getting lifted off that POS when they did was the ONLY remotely sensible thing those guys ever did...


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March '04.. got the **** kicked outa me NE of Bermuda so headed back to Oriental.. broke and no where else to go where I could get my boat on the hard for a year..
'05 went back and tried again early May.. got **** kicked again but this time kept going.. had to hand steer from N of Bermuda to the Azores then UK.. boat was an H37c and I was solo both times.
What they basically lacked was deep water experience and storm conditions.. they'll have learnt a thing or 2 out there which will hold them in good stead if they/he has another go.
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I'll post again without accidentally hitting the tiny send button with my large finger ..,, my hope is that the two fortunate sailors who survived a storm by rescue will now engage themselves to educate others of the dangers and risks when sailing in storms, to plan better, to think of practices to follow to reduce risk, to support the CG, and to help other sailors.
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I don't think Jason will be giving any seminars on safety or regret. As he posted today that had it not been for the failure of the alternator, wind generator, torn sails and finally, the motor... "If the problems had not happened they would of been around 250 miles from Bermuda when the storm hit, most likely missing any of the storm."
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Another example of unqualified people(I did not say sailors) with no skills, ability or experience being rescued at a large cost to the American taxpayer.
Firstly we, like many others here, are delighted to hear that the two souls on board were safely extracted from what certainly sounds like terrible conditions...and very, very grateful (on behalf of all mariners) to the USCG men and equipment involved in the rescue.

...and now, to add a bit of balance, we will note that in fact the country with by far the world's largest marine rescue 'jurisdiction' is Australia. Australia's maritime (and aviation) search & rescue zone stretches through parts of the Indian, Pacific and Southern Oceans and amounts to 52.8 million square kilometres, or roughly 12% of the Earth’s surface. Whilst there may very likely be more traffic per square kilometer in the North Atlantic, the USCG men and equipment are supported by 310million citizens. By comparison, Australia's massive rescue zone is carried on the backs of only 22million Aussies...and, being both mariners and Aussies, we are always supportive of their efforts and their demands on the OZ budget.
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Neither is the McGlashans'- if they think it's only 8600 miles from Rhode Island to Port Macquarie.
Oh dear, it seems the may a systemic weakness in Ozzie navigation skills.

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Boatie, you are hardly the rule and rather the exception!

If all cruisers had your guile we wouldn't have threads like this one to prattle on about from our armchairs!
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Dunno if it helps our U.S. cousins' feelings, but I am pretty sure I spent twice that rescue cost on retail and services last time I visited the States. (I LOVE California!) So you are probably still ahead on balance.

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I don't think Jason will be giving any seminars on safety or regret. As he posted today that had it not been for the failure of the alternator, wind generator, torn sails and finally, the motor... "If the problems had not happened they would of been around 250 miles from Bermuda when the storm hit, most likely missing any of the storm."
Oh that is a shame. There are always lessons to be learned.
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By the way, for you Yanks, we are Aussies, not Ozzies (but pronounced like this)!
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Oops! I must have caught the disease...
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Neither is the McGlashans'- if they think it's only 8600 miles from Rhode Island to Port Macquarie.
No where in the article does it say that they think it's 8600nm. It's written in the introduction and it was presumably calculated by the reporter from google earth.


to the mods.... Maybe you should consider merging the two threads about this??????
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It's written in the introduction and it was presumably calculated by the reporter from google earth.
The Rockies would have been a bit of a challenge
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