Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 31-07-2009, 06:43   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 51
Tieing-Off a Tiller

ive done about 600 miles of cruising in my bristol 27 now and still cant figure out how to tie off the tiller. has anybody figured out a way to maintain a course and sleep at the same time, without another person or autopilot? any help would be appreciated. ive been trying to pull this off for a while but i can only buy a few seconds, at the most minutes. ive noticed that me moving around on the boat will throw the set boat off course too, as well as gusts and swells.
clifflindsey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-07-2009, 08:11   #2
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,594
Do a search of "sheet to tiller steering" Basically a line runs from the tiller to either the mainsheet or jibsheet on the opposite side. A shock cord counters this pull. If sails luff the shock cord pulls the tiller causing the bow to fall off. If the sails pull increases the line to the tiller overpowers the shock cord pulling the bow to windward.

It does take lots of tweaking
__________________
Randy

Cape Dory 25D Seraph
rtbates is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-07-2009, 08:15   #3
Moderator Emeritus
 
David M's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Boat: Research vessel for a university, retired now.
Posts: 10,406
You need to find a balance between having too much weather helm or having too much lee helm. You then do as rtbates describes.
__________________
David

Life begins where land ends.
David M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-07-2009, 09:24   #4
Registered User
 
Fishspearit's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: FL
Posts: 646
It really works a lot better on a ketch, which is why they were so popular before autopilots were ubiquitous. We used to frequently tie the tiller in position and then make small course changes with the mizzen trim, worked beautifully.

I always struggled with the jib sheet method.
__________________
www.BestMarineSurveyor.com
Fishspearit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-07-2009, 11:15   #5
Moderator Emeritus
 
roverhi's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Carlsbad, CA
Boat: 1976 Sabre 28-2
Posts: 7,505
Send a message via Yahoo to roverhi
I've never had any luck with sheet to tiller steering. Had to make too much of a compromise with performance and then never really got it to work for more than a very short time. Some people swear by rather at it, however. One person I talked with said they had to use surgical tubing rather than shock cord. The stretch characteristics are different and the surgical tubing worked while shock cord failed to steer.

Aloha
Peter O.
roverhi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-07-2009, 12:27   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 51
thanks guys, ill try it out.
clifflindsey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-07-2009, 13:49   #7
Registered User
 
Cheechako's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 25,514
if you have the ultimate balanced boat with a long keel and STEADY winds it will work. Otherwise they are intended to only work until you just nod off! (see Murphy's 2nd corralory (sp?))
Cheechako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-07-2009, 16:09   #8
Registered User
 
Starbuck's Avatar

Join Date: May 2005
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 863
Try here.

When you say "sleep," exactly what kind of sleep are you talking about?
__________________
s/y Elizabeth— Catalina 34 MkII
"Man must have just enough faith in himself to have adventures, and just enough doubt of himself to enjoy them." — G. K. Chesterfield
Starbuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-07-2009, 18:09   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 51
cat naps of course, you silly sailor.
clifflindsey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-07-2009, 18:47   #10
Registered User
 
irwin28's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pensacola FL
Boat: Fuji 32 Ketch
Posts: 118
Send a message via MSN to irwin28
i have a regular fin keeled sloop...and if i have the right balance i can tie it off to the side thats opposite of where the tiller gives pressure then i adjust accordingly. As for how long i could keep it on the same tack i last week kept the same take as I finished a 12 pack of bud light limes. But its possible on any boat if it is on mine lol.
irwin28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-07-2009, 20:35   #11
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
Boat: Valiant 40 (1975)
Posts: 4,073
I use sheet to tiller steering. (see the thread and tutorial I have on sailfar) I am still experimenting with it and I do use surgical tubing on the one that I use on the Valiant. The Compac is small enough that I get away with a bungie cord.
I have thought that a ketch or yawl would have some advantages- thanks for the confirmation Spearit. Maybe that will be my next boat
How long will it keep a heading as respect to the wind? Upwind all day, Downwind is harder, but i have kept a heading for as long as 3+ hours downwind, and I am getting better.
Keep a compass at your berth and stick your head out every 15 minutes or so. It is a very civil way of soloing in a smaller boat.
s/v Beth is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tiller Locks Zach General Sailing Forum 19 03-08-2018 07:48
Vibrating Tiller gbendaly Seamanship & Boat Handling 8 19-06-2009 13:17
A new tiller handle Allan S Construction, Maintenance & Refit 3 22-02-2009 09:06
tiller tamer clifflindsey Construction, Maintenance & Refit 0 04-09-2008 17:27
emergency tiller? limmer Monohull Sailboats 7 01-04-2008 16:14

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 18:54.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.