Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 05-03-2015, 01:32   #1
Moderator
 
carstenb's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2012
Location: Copenhagen
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Fast 40.3
Posts: 4,936
Images: 1
T-boning a Ferry in Sidney

Apparently this sailor was running DDW and couldn't figure out how to turn the boat.

__________________

__________________
I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted - Elmore Leonard
carstenb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2015, 01:44   #2
Registered User
 
El Pinguino's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Punta Arenas ahorra
Boat: 39' Westerly Sealord
Posts: 3,947
Re: T-boning a Ferry in Sidney

Looks like a beam reach to me, over canvased, genoa already starting to reduce itself to its component parts, he's dumped his wind... can't come up and doesn't know how to go down....
The AIS probably said the ferry was passing clear ahead... well I guess the wheelhouse did..
__________________

El Pinguino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2015, 01:49   #3
Moderator
 
carstenb's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2012
Location: Copenhagen
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Fast 40.3
Posts: 4,936
Images: 1
Re: T-boning a Ferry in Sidney

Quote:
Originally Posted by El Pinguino View Post
Looks like a beam reach to me, over canvased, genoa already starting to reduce itself to its component parts, he's dumped his wind... can't come up and doesn't know how to go down....
The AIS probably said the ferry was passing clear ahead... well I guess the wheelhouse did..
NO he was going DDW - notice that his spinnaker pole is set - he was running butterfly with the main to one side and genua poled out other. Damn if I know how he got his genua loose from the pole. But yes, the genua is disintergrating.

Looks like a lot of wind - so I agree - way overcanvassed for that day
__________________
I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted - Elmore Leonard
carstenb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2015, 01:53   #4
Registered User
 
El Pinguino's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Punta Arenas ahorra
Boat: 39' Westerly Sealord
Posts: 3,947
Re: T-boning a Ferry in Sidney

Quote:
Originally Posted by carstenb View Post
NO he was going DDW - notice that his spinnaker pole is set -
Gotcha... didn't notice that.
So it all fell to bits before the ferry got in his way.....
El Pinguino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2015, 02:07   #5
Moderator
 
carstenb's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2012
Location: Copenhagen
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Fast 40.3
Posts: 4,936
Images: 1
Re: T-boning a Ferry in Sidney

Quote:
Originally Posted by El Pinguino View Post
Gotcha... didn't notice that.
So it all fell to bits before the ferry got in his way.....
yeah, he apparently had more problems than he needed. I think I would have put the helm hard over and gone on a beam reach. He would have laid the boat down, but it wouldn't have flipped and that would have given him a chance get upwind and drop the main and get his act together again.

No chance of dropping the main when going DDW in a wind like that.
__________________
I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted - Elmore Leonard
carstenb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2015, 02:31   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Sydney
Boat: Lagoon 400
Posts: 1,094
Re: T-boning a Ferry in Sidney

southerly change was advertised well in advance. On top of that cloud front further pointed to stronger than usual conditions. Gusts to 50 kn.

Reckless.
__________________
arsenelupiga is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2015, 02:34   #7
Moderator
 
carstenb's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2012
Location: Copenhagen
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Fast 40.3
Posts: 4,936
Images: 1
Re: T-boning a Ferry in Sidney

Quote:
Originally Posted by arsenelupiga View Post
southerly change was advertised well in advance. On top of that cloud front further pointed to stronger than usual conditions. Gusts to 50 kn.

Reckless.
Gusting 50knts? and he was flying full sail butterfly?

Reckless indeed.
__________________
I spent most of my money on Booze, Broads and Boats. The rest I wasted - Elmore Leonard
carstenb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2015, 02:36   #8
Certifiable Refitter/Senior Wannbe
 
Wotname's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South of 43 S, Australia
Boat: Van DeStat Super Dogger 31'
Posts: 7,330
Re: T-boning a Ferry in Sidney

Well someone has gotta do it; its Sydney
__________________
All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangereous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T.E. Lawrence
Wotname is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2015, 02:41   #9
Registered User
 
El Pinguino's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Punta Arenas ahorra
Boat: 39' Westerly Sealord
Posts: 3,947
Re: T-boning a Ferry in Sidney

'OK Betty, lets furl the sail up the front, I'll wind in this rope while you ease that one ... yes you are still the helmsman.. NO DON'T TAKE THE ROPE OFF THE WINCH... PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR HELM... FERRY ? WHAT FERRY....... oh bugger....'
El Pinguino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2015, 03:21   #10
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Boat: Able 50
Posts: 3,055
Re: T-boning a Ferry in Sidney

I do hope all you armchair experts realize that a 50 knot front blew through Sydney that day. Oh how I would love to line each of you up and send you out into 50 for the first time. It looked like this.


Click image for larger version

Name:	6273204-3x2-700x467.jpg
Views:	640
Size:	32.1 KB
ID:	98325
__________________
savoir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2015, 03:23   #11
Bailing as fast as I can.
 
GILow's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Boat: Swanson 42
Posts: 3,585
Re: T-boning a Ferry in Sidney

Ok, seriously though... I don't understand why he didn't head up into wind? Am I missing something about the circumstances that makes this difficult or impossible? I'm not being rhetorical or sarcastic here, I just can't figure it out and I think I am missing something...

Matt


Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.
http://www.swansonsailor.id.au
GILow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2015, 03:25   #12
Bailing as fast as I can.
 
GILow's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Boat: Swanson 42
Posts: 3,585
Re: T-boning a Ferry in Sidney

Quote:
Originally Posted by savoir View Post
I do hope all you armchair experts realize that a 50 knot front blew through Sydney that day. Oh how I would love to line each of you up and send you out into 50 for the first time. It looked like this.


Attachment 98325

It's nasty and I got caught in a 54 knot blow in our Austral 20 once, so I can sympathise with this guy. (Actually I posted about the experience here on CF as I was not sure if I handled it ok. As it turned out I got some bits right and some wrong.). But I still can't figure out why he didn't head up into the wind.

Matt


Sent from my iPad using Cruisers Sailing Forum
__________________
Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.
http://www.swansonsailor.id.au
GILow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2015, 03:35   #13
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Boat: Able 50
Posts: 3,055
Re: T-boning a Ferry in Sidney

Shitting ones pants and making smart decisions rarely coincide.
__________________
savoir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2015, 03:39   #14
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Sydney
Boat: Lagoon 400
Posts: 1,094
Re: T-boning a Ferry in Sidney

I was out that day too. Before front, wind was sub 10 and hot which is not too common around sydney these days. It was tempting taking out all sails to beat 3 kn speed barrier.
__________________
arsenelupiga is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2015, 03:40   #15
Senior Cruiser
 
atoll's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
Boat: 63 custom alloy sloop,macwester26,prout snowgoose 37 elite catamaran!
Posts: 9,310
Images: 75
Re: T-boning a Ferry in Sidney

he must have been under the impression that power gives way to sail..................
__________________

__________________
my catamaran building project updates http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...36#post2502136
atoll is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
Ferry

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Crew Wanted: Helene and Andre Boning helene12 Crew Archives 4 09-01-2012 16:56
Hello from Sidney, BC, Canada holland Meets & Greets 15 19-04-2011 16:26
Blow Up at Sidney hummingway Pacific & South China Sea 16 09-04-2010 22:23



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 16:15.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.