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Old 23-06-2017, 01:23   #1
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Surviving a monster storm

The lovely couple from SV Sarean just posted a video of them riding out Tropical Cyclone Debbie which smashed the Whitsunday region a few months ago. This storm was an extremely slow moving monster. These brave people show just how important good preparation and mangroves are to surviving such a storm.

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These brave people show just how important good preparation and mangroves are to surviving such a storm.
Meh. Frankly I am unimpressed with their preparation other than their move to get into the mangroves well in advance of the storm's arrival. I don't know what the storm track was in relation to their position but early on nobody does so I think it best to plan for a worst case direct hit of one is headed your way.

They left the roller furling headsail still up. Mainsail on the boom with the sail cover not lashed down. Spray hood and Bimini with full enclosure still up. Inflatable dinghy on davits with the outboard motor in place.

Really, I wouldn't recommend anyone look to these people as an example of how to prepare for a storm and the fact that they made it through without damage only suggests to me that the conditions weren't that bad. I believe at some point the woman says the wind speed is 58 knots, hardly a strong gale. Big whoop. To me it looks like they dodged a bullet.

What do I know? Direct hits from hurricanes Sandy and Matthew as well as a couple TS. No problems but I strip the deck including taking the boom off the mast and the BBQ off the stern pulpit. Meanwhile neighboring boats were lifted off jack stands or sunk while docks were torn apart and whole marinas erased.

Also couldn't help but notice they have a CQR as their bower anchor so take that for what you will...
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Also couldn't help but notice they have a CQR as their bower anchor
Oh well that's the final straw, definitely can't trust them.

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Oh well that's the final straw, definitely can't trust them.

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Ground tackle-elitist?
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Ground tackle-elitist?
Nobody judges people by the kind of boat they have and or how they have it equipped?

I sure do. But I am also the kind of guy who the first thing I notice about someone is the kind of shoes they wear. You can tell a lot about someone based on the kind of shoes they wear.
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I admit it, I am prejudiced.
So is the majority of the forum given some of the anchoring threads we have had

But know you mention shoes, they weren't brown shoes were they?

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Re: Surviving a monster storm

AND, back to the OP.

I have to agree with Delancey on (at least) one point. If an actual "monster" storm is coming, first thing you do is clear the topsides of anything and everything that adds to windage. That includes all sails, dinghy, biminis, etc.
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I admit I was very surprised to see her shooting video from the cockpit with the weather curtains up. I couldn't believe they held so I must agree it wasn't as bad where they were as it could have been.

Or, does anyone think the Mangroves provided that much protection from surface winds?
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Nobody judges people by the kind of boat they have and or how they have it equipped?

I sure do. But I am also the kind of guy who the first thing I notice about someone is the kind of shoes they wear. You can tell a lot about someone based on the kind of shoes they wear.
I also agree this was not an adequate prep for a large storm
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So what kinda shoes do you wear?
I haven't worn shoes in six months.
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Meh. Frankly I am unimpressed with their preparation other than their move to get into the mangroves well in advance of the storm's arrival. I don't know what the storm track was in relation to their position but early on nobody does so I think it best to plan for a worst case direct hit of one is headed your way.

They left the roller furling headsail still up. Mainsail on the boom with the sail cover not lashed down. Spray hood and Bimini with full enclosure still up. Inflatable dinghy on davits with the outboard motor in place.

Really, I wouldn't recommend anyone look to these people as an example of how to prepare for a storm and the fact that they made it through without damage only suggests to me that the conditions weren't that bad. I believe at some point the woman says the wind speed is 58 knots, hardly a strong gale. Big whoop. To me it looks like they dodged a bullet.

What do I know? Direct hits from hurricanes Sandy and Matthew as well as a couple TS. No problems but I strip the deck including taking the boom off the mast and the BBQ off the stern pulpit. Meanwhile neighboring boats were lifted off jack stands or sunk while docks were torn apart and whole marinas erased.

Also couldn't help but notice they have a CQR as their bower anchor so take that for what you will...
Is evident to me that securing with the spider web in the mangroves is a lot more effective than the other possible measures. Though, I admit, the dink on the davits bothered me a lot too. I wondered if there was a reason it was left there... rapid last-ditch escape maybe?

Also the video shows what happens when you leave the boat in harbor or at the dock. Stripping all the sails with the best anchor on the planet would not have saved you.

Bottom Line, my takeaway ... head for the mangroves! And good job to the skipper and crew.
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Nobody judges people by the kind of boat they have and or how they have it equipped?

I sure do. But I am also the kind of guy who the first thing I notice about someone is the kind of shoes they wear. You can tell a lot about someone based on the kind of shoes they wear.
I met a bloke a few weeks ago who had just completed a circumnavigation... maybe his 5th or 6th.

He was wearing a seaboot on one foot and a lace up boot on the other..

You thoughts on this one would be appreciated.. and no I am not making this up....
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The lovely couple from SV Sarean just posted a video of them riding out Tropical Cyclone Debbie which smashed the Whitsunday region a few months ago. This storm was an extremely slow moving monster. These brave people show just how important good preparation and mangroves are to surviving such a storm.

Very informative and matches (at length) my single experience with a hurricane...a far-weaker, faster-moving one! But they sound similar.
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Well, you are a theologian of tackle, Panope...I've watched your sermons extensively!
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