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Old 13-12-2014, 01:16   #16
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Re: Stowage Of Poles Along The Shrouds?

If you are running down wind with 2 headsails up you probably wont be using the mainsail.Why dont you put a block on the end of your boom and use it as a pole on one side you will only need one pole then for the other side.Thats what I do and have my pole on a track on the front of the mast tidy and out of the way.
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Old 13-12-2014, 02:07   #17
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Re: Stowage Of Poles Along The Shrouds?

When you're debating lifeline & shroud storage, one thing to consider is, how much vital handhold space are you losing via each method? If you had a bit more deck space I'd say, without question, to store them on deck. As they truly do add a fair bit of windage, & weight aloft, even on a good sized vessel.

Brackets which hold them securely, low on the stanchions might be a viable option. And assuming that the brackets are stout, then the poles double as toe rails. Which is one of the perks of having them mounted on deck on bigger boats.
Also, if, heaven forbid, you do lose your rig, having the poles mounted thusly, probably gives you the best odds on not having them go over the side, along with the rig.

FYI, on a boat that size, it's probable that the 2 poles combined (weight) is on par with that of the spar section of an equal length. And their combined windage is a lot more than that of an equal spar section of the same length.
It's ironic, but a round section (even rigging wire) is TERRIBLE from a windage (Drag Coefficent) perspective. So the less windage, especially up high, the better.
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Old 15-12-2014, 12:09   #18
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Re: Stowage Of Poles Along The Shrouds?

dannyjoh, unfortunately I have a really crappy internet connection and cannot see your photo posted. However, would you like to explain how you propose using the two poles? Also, are your sails hank-on or on a furler or on individual furlers?

I would use boatman61's method for stowage on a small boat with light poles - your mast may be too narrow to accommodate the stowage of two poles.
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Re: Stowage Of Poles Along The Shrouds?

dannyjoh,

Have you had the boat out in the ocean at all yet?

At some point when the swell and wind chop are down, for using the double headsail rig, use them with the main up, too, as a roll dampener. It should have 2 reefs in, so it's really flat (or one deep one if that's how the sail is built), and be sheeted in as if you were sailing about 50 deg. off the wind. Used with the twin heads'ls, it will make quite a comfort difference.

We have stowed our spinnaker pole up the mast for years, so it's always ready to go.
We lost the one stowed that way when we were dismasted, but dismastings are rare in the cruising fleet. It is true that it would leave you nothing to fabricate a jury rig out of, but I'd say that conservative sailing practices will greatly lessen the possibility of needing to do that.

Storing the poles along the shrouds will noticeably lessen your windward performance. Only you can decide if the deck's better for you. If you have big feet, like me, you may need the deck space more than what the loss of windward performance will mean for you. Somebody with smaller feet might make a different decision. As with much to do with cruising, experiment and see what works for you. Part of the freedom of the lifestyle is that such decisions do not have to be governed by "majority rule."

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