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Old 17-11-2014, 09:56   #16
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Re: Soupy Mud and CQRs.. Happening Now

How's that Banzai tree coming along?



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Old 17-11-2014, 10:11   #17
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Re: Soupy Mud and CQRs.. Happening Now

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...I'm singlehanded.

Can't remove the headsail, because the sheeve at the masthead desintgrated from uv and the halyard is jammed...
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...What would you have done differently?...
I would have made the boat seaworthy before setting sail.
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Old 17-11-2014, 10:23   #18
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Re: Soupy Mud and CQRs.. Happening Now

Kenomac,

Thanks, that's why I'm posting. This is definately a teachable moment.

My secondary is actually on the bow as well.

Primary at 10:1, secondary at 4:1. I'm guessing the secondary is plowing a trench back and forth. Seems I'm not sailing as fast or far as I usually do.

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My good friend Terry gave me the bozia last week. He has some awesome ones. Mines a Japanese maple thats a perfect fit in a cubby hole in the salon. It's all twisty and knarly with the limbs spilling out of the cubby. I'm just shaping the limbs the way I want them to drape the wall.

It' pretty scragly still, think Charley Brown style right now.

It's not an evergreen so maybe rookie can learn something with it. I'm pretty much clueless at this stage.
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Old 17-11-2014, 10:39   #19
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I agree Tera Nova.

My lease was about to auto renew.

That's why I'm hanging out in familar waters for now. Got a new anchor light, windex (both knocked off by tagging my dockmates mast last month, ICW wakes), and a sheeve ready to install.

Waiting for a friend to finish working on Joe Dirt ll in New Orleans also. Then he and his partner are going join me in their Westerly for a lazy coastal cruise.

So I'm only a few miles from "home" and the support of good friends.
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Re: Soupy Mud and CQRs.. Happening Now

Since you mentioned this was to help others learn - I have a question

Did you set the anchor under sail by: a) running downwind, dropping it, and letting the continuing inertia of the boat set it, which then snaps the bow into the wind or b) coming up into the wind, stalling, dropping the anchor, and then backing the mainsail to drift back and set the anchor?

I've done both on the 23' sonar I most often sail (no engine) which has 1,800 lbs displacement, a rope rode, and a light easily manhandled anchor, and my understanding (and the snap on the bow) makes me believe that method A yields the stronger set. On the Sonar, I cleat the rode at the bow, bring the anchor and all the scope through the bow chock and outside the lifelines to the cockpit and coil the rope there so it pays out easily. I'm hesitant to try this on the bigger boats I crew/skipper on now though as I'm not sure if it translates to all chain rode with heavier gear, more force on the associated points (cleat and chock, and possibly windlass unless you pretie a snubber), and the potential for the chain to clump, fall over, and scar the deck. Have you tried this method? I haven't been able to find anything online that talks about it specifically with heavy gear and an all chain rode, but would like to know in case I'm ever in a similar situation with a bad engine and a worse storm. Thanks!

For what it's worth, I've tried both a Danforth and a CQR in Lake Tashmoo (notoriously soupy bottom) and couldn't get either to set; so great job weathering the storm in less than ideal bottom conditions!
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Re: Soupy Mud and CQRs.. Happening Now

Good post Brown.

I've practiced method b sevaral times and that's what I did yesterday. Winds were light so my main as a tether was not so effective. That's why I think the initial drag around midnight actually set the anchor. Still don't think I've moved since. Still blowing a stink for another 28 hours likely. Still plenty of streamers too.

As to method a. I accidentlly did that two days ago after leaving the bayou to source the pump.

Didn't secure the anchor because I needed to get to wheel and turn around in a tight spot to get out. Forgot to do it after exiting the bayou. Came around hatchet point, turned onto a reach and up to 5+ headed to the marina. Nice wind I thought, rail about a foot off the water.

Took me a couple of seconds to realize the clatter I started to hear was my anchor paying out. Darn it.

Headed up, released the main, reaching for the headsail sheet just as it bit. Probably 4 knots still. Full and sudden stop with a 180. Lucky it didn't rip my anchor locker lid off. I think the three strand bunched up under the lid.

Now that set was hard to retrieve. Anchored in the ICW with no tows thankfully. Got it up, headed upwind of the marina and dropped sails. Drifted downwind parallel to the laywall and handed a stern line to my friend Terry.

So yes, I think method a would work with a little better preplan than my accidental execution. Haven't heard of that before though.

It's been a funfilled couple of days. I'm almost enjoying it.
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Haha, great story! Glad to hear things are looking up!


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I have dragged CQR's in soft mud like an ox plowing a field. A Danforth eliminated that problem.
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Best anchor for mud is the Bruce.
I live in the PNW, lots of it here.


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