Solo sailers and sleep reality

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by georgetheleo

THE LAW OF THE SEA SAYS ALL SHIPS ARE TOMAINTAIN A CINTINUOUS "WATCH" this is impossible if only person aboard is asleep-Obviously!!!!!!!!!!

That's Okay then Dickhead..
I don't sail on a ship..

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by georgetheleo

This thread of idiots reminds me of the French big tri solo racer dudeVI's eace:couple years ago who while asleep drove (his?) multi-million $ hi speed tri on the rocks coming home--he claimed the radar alarm was at fault because it failed to "go-Off" LOL

That usually only happens to folk who rely on advanced technology.. pretty screen addicts who forget to look out of the window now and then..
Us old 'Idiots' who still trust paper and common sense stand off hove to till personal and other factors like vis and weather are more favourable..

[weavis]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

I've only done one 'single handed' passage... 14 days... low traffic area... trades...
Must be the wombat blood in me veins....

I didnt know Wombats sailed boats?

[kaerou]

I am not sure if this is the right forum to follow up on single handed sailing, but after reading Andrew Evans latest version of "Singlehanded Sailing", I am puzzled as to why none of the sailors he cites, while in very heavy weather, never chose the Heaving To option. Andrew's examples are either about using a sea anchor or a drogue attached astern. My question is would one heave to in a very heavy storm? Lin and Larry Pardey, in their excellent work "Storm Tactics: Modern Methods of Heaving-to.. " often used that maneuvre to let a storm go by. They also talk about the use of a para-anchor to be used while heaving-to. Has anyone any experience of such conditions?

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by weavis

I didnt know Wombats sailed boats?

Correcto.. they are totally terrestial(sp).... however as well as the roots and leaves part of it I have a few other wombat characteristics...eg..' a wombat can lower its metabolism by about a third, slowing its heartbeat and respiration in order to conserve energy. When relaxed, wombats will often sleep on their backs with their legs in the air. Like many other animals, wombats sometimes snore when sleeping.'


... observe....

[boatman61]

While we are being pedantic about this let's look at Rule 5 again..
Which states.. All vessels shall at all times maintain a proper lookout for other vessels and be prepared to take any action to avoid a collision.
How many of you maintain an anchor watch.. or whilst on a mooring.. it is a requirement..
I would hazard a guess at.. No one..
Watchkeeping is not restricted to 'whilst underway'..

PS: Proper being subject to interpretation

[hoppy]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

Correcto.. they are totally terrestial(sp).... however as well as the roots and leaves part of it I have a few other wombat characteristics...eg..' a wombat can lower its metabolism by about a third, slowing its heartbeat and respiration in order to conserve energy. When relaxed, wombats will often sleep on their backs with their legs in the air. Like many other animals, wombats sometimes snore when sleeping.'


... observe....

Is that how you navigate? (top left of photo)

[hoppy]

Originally Posted by boatman61

While we are being pedantic about this let's look at Rule 5 again..
Which states.. All vessels shall at all times maintain a proper lookout for other vessels and be prepared to take any action to avoid a collision.
How many of you maintain an anchor watch.. or whilst on a mooring.. it is a requirement..
I would hazard a guess at.. No one..
Watchkeeping is not restricted to 'whilst underway'..

PS: Proper being subject to interpretation

I dont know what all the fuss is about.

If you are solo and get run down my a ship, that's your problem and you chose to take that risk. If you are on a fully crewed yacht maintaining a proper watch, you will have spotted the solo sailor and even if you have right of way the col regs tell you what to do (as boaty wrote above).

It takes two to screw up and if you fear the solo sailor then you are admitting that you or your crew are not competent enough to maintain a watch and perhaps you should stick to forum sailing.

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by hoppy

Is that how you navigate? (top left of photo)

Yep, pretty much

According to the date on that pic we were about 35 days out of NZ when it was taken.... I would wake up and look at the bum end of that globe and all I could see was blue.... it took us a week to sail across the 1 inch square 'title block' they had stuck on the empty bit of the south pacific...happy days...

[weavis]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

Yep, pretty much

According to the date on that pic we were about 35 days out of NZ when it was taken.... I would wake up and look at the bum end of that globe and all I could see was blue.... it took us a week to sail across the 1 inch square 'title block' they had stuck on the empty bit of the south pacific...happy days...

NOT only a fine boat, but an excellent sailor!

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by weavis

NOT only a fine boat, but an excellent sailor!

Dunno about that, I have my moments...

As I said once before I sometimes wake screaming from my dreams about what might have been...

But as they say... there is arse and there is class and I don't have much class.... arse wins every time...

[capngeo]

Originally Posted by boatman61

I piss a lot so keep a regular watch

Beat me to it! I drink a LOT of water when on watch; every time I pee, I drink another half liter.

Like beer drinking, once the "seal" is broken, you get on a 15-20 minute cycle.

[Jon Eisberg]

Originally Posted by georgetheleo

This thread of idiots reminds me of the French big tri solo racer dude couple years ago who while asleep drove (his?) multi-million $ hi speed tri on the rocks coming home--he claimed the radar alarm was at fault because it failed to "go-Off" LOL

Inferring that Francis Joyon is an idiot reminds me of some wanker calling the Fastest Man Who Ever Lived the same, for the mistake he made at in '88 which kept him from winning the Monaco Grand Prix a total of SEVEN times, instead of a mere SIX...

:-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeFqsWWG1qE

Joyon Finally Makes A Mistake (A Big One)… | Tim Zimmermann

Francis Joyon: world's fastest sailor - Yachting World

[Snowpetrel]

Fwiw. Ive kept to 20 minutes naps while coastal, and go to sleeping at will when offshore, sometimes sleeping for 2-4 hours at a stretch if need be. I dont normally set an alarm, unless coastal. This is in the quiet tasman sea area. I think fatigue is much more likely to kill me than a ship. Not sure If want to singlehand anywhere with lots of shipping about, ie europe or middle east.

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[Steadman Uhlich]

Originally Posted by Seattle Slewp

Just some food for thought on how noticeable you actually are to a large vessel.

I remember having the Conn onboard our 225' USCG cutter just exiting the straights of Juan de Fuca and making our turn heading south. On radar I had a contact at a constant bearing of 355 relative at a range of 8 miles. I had thought I had a visual of the contact as I I had the faint glow of nav lights that I shot through the alidade at the same relative bearing, however it wasn't the contact on radar, it was a sailboat 1000 yards off the port bow, lying ahull. By the time I disengaged the auto pilot and did a hard right rudder, I walked out on the bridge wing expecting carnage, but we narrowly missed. However, we were so close that I could see the man sleeping in his cockpit as he floated safely down our port side. This was by far the scariest moment in my nautical career and gave me a new appreciation of just how hard it is to properly identify small craft at night.


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Thanks for posting your anecdote above. It is interesting to see how the bridge crew of a larger vessel sees the smaller boats and your story is a good one showing a near miss to which the small boat sailor was oblivious.