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Old 10-06-2015, 11:58   #31
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Re: Solo sailers and sleep reality

30/40 minutes sleep shift... after one week you learn how survived with sleep deprivation.. or your ended crazy.. one or the other.. if you like singlehanded navigation come with the territory..
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Hoppy.. Hard core solo which I likely come under its simple..
Double reef the main at sunset.. triple if the signs (cloud n sea) advise it..
Slouch in the cockpit.. have some supper.. slouch stargazing awhile and around midnight check course.. fine tune the sails to the AP then go below.. final coffee.. clean teeth and face.. poke head up for final once over then crash.
Been doing this for years..
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Sound like a plan, maybe add a strobe light while you're at it
That may not be a great idea :-)

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If necessary to attract the attention of another vessel, any vessel may make light or sound signals that cannot be mistaken for any signal authorized elsewhere in these Rules, or may direct the beam of her searchlight in the direction of the danger, in such a way as not to embarrass any vessel Any light to attract the attention of another vessel shall be such that it cannot be mistaken for any aid to navigation. For the purpose of this Rule the use of high intensity intermittent or revolving lights, such as strobe lights, shall be avoided.
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Colregs is surprisingly vague about the use of strobe lights, but their use does not appear to be authorized or approved anywhere. I've always just presumed they are to be used for emergency situations only, and I'd guess 9 times out of 10, another mariner would assume the use of one to be more likely a signal of distress, than a warning that the skipper is grabbing a bit of shut-eye...

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Old 10-06-2015, 12:26   #34
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Hoppy.. Hard core solo which I likely come under its simple..
Double reef the main at sunset.. triple if the signs (cloud n sea) advise it..
Slouch in the cockpit.. have some supper.. slouch stargazing awhile and around midnight check course.. fine tune the sails to the AP then go below.. final coffee.. clean teeth and face.. poke head up for final once over then crash.
Been doing this for years..
'crash' might be a poor choice of words in this instance.

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Old 10-06-2015, 12:48   #35
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'crash' might be a poor choice of words in this instance.



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My thoughts exactly, but in boatys case maybe it's true. He goes down the sleep and crash goes his hydraulic steering


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Never have trusted this boat enough to do it so slog on till knackered then heave to or lay a hull.. depending on conditions.
Got to have faith on your boat and equipment
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That may not be a great idea :-)

Colregs is surprisingly vague about the use of strobe lights, but their use does not appear to be authorized or approved anywhere. I've always just presumed they are to be used for emergency situations only, and I'd guess 9 times out of 10, another mariner would assume the use of one to be more likely a signal of distress, than a warning that the skipper is grabbing a bit of shut-eye...

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Sorry Jon, I was being facetious. In reality I think the closer we all come to following one set of guidelines, the more we will understand each other's intentions. Motor sailing but not displaying a steaming light, sure you can do that and be the stand on vessel in most situations but it's not really right or fair. Same goes for any other lights or shapes incorrectly used.
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. I'm more interest in peoples post journey personal experiences rather than advice on how to do it.
I don't give my experiences on here because no matter what the facts the bile filled solo haters just keep on with their drivel...
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Re: Solo sailers and sleep reality

Those of us in the medical field have been through enforced sleep deprivation. I rarely get more than 5 hours sleep a night, perhaps 4. Although my training ended 30 yeas ago, the sleep mash up continues.

I dont take 20 minute naps. At the appropriate time, I set all alarms for collision avoidance and a wake up alarm for 1 hour. I dont go below. Usually if really tired I will deep REM for 30-35 minutes and then naturally wake. Although still tired, Im good for another 6 hours. About once every 5 days, I need a straight 4 hours, and then good to go on the reset.

Its a functioning state only I am alert to everything..... Thats why I prefer coastal hops or no more than a couple of days at a time at sea alone.

In saying that - Im pretty confident I could do a long stretch.
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I don't give my experiences on here because no matter what the facts the bile filled solo haters just keep on with their drivel...
As TS says "haters gonna hate", so just "shake it off"
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I don't give my experiences on here because no matter what the facts the bile filled solo haters just keep on with their drivel...
lol.......

Yep...... because they dont agree with solo, they want a law banning it. Strange aint it.
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That may not be a great idea :-)

Colregs is surprisingly vague about the use of strobe lights, but their use does not appear to be authorized or approved anywhere. I've always just presumed they are to be used for emergency situations only, and I'd guess 9 times out of 10, another mariner would assume the use of one to be more likely a signal of distress, than a warning that the skipper is grabbing a bit of shut-eye...

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Re: Solo sailers and sleep reality

It is quite some gap between what an average body can do and what a trained one will take in its stride.

Think about runners: an average person cannot run 10 miles. Any decent runner can run 10 miles every day of a week. And an ultra marathoner will easily run 100 miles a week.

Now back to our sleeping reality: an average person will go maybe 10 to 20 hours without sleep. A racing sailor with good preparation will sleep 6 to 8 hours a day with only one longer sleep period. Out and out pro solo sailors can go for days on end with 20 minute naps that do not add up to more than 6 hours of sleep per day. In the racing world, it sure pays to have the body that lends itself to such a regime.

I think it is good to have some amount of self awareness of how far we can run and how far we can go without sleep. This is where offshore sailing becomes interesting, as much as in the cruising mode the requirements are maybe only some short distance from a mortal towards the superhuman.

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I also read andrews book. I printed it aND value or as my favorite so sailing manual.
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Hoppy.. Hard core solo which I likely come under its simple..
Double reef the main at sunset.. triple if the signs (cloud n sea) advise it..
Slouch in the cockpit.. have some supper.. slouch stargazing awhile and around midnight check course.. fine tune the sails to the AP then go below.. final coffee.. clean teeth and face.. poke head up for final once over then crash.
Been doing this for years..
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