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Old 06-03-2016, 15:20   #16
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Re: Salvaged yacht does a runner...

The law has a long arm and bad boys have no where to hide if it is worth while to shag them down. That might be the bottom line here. Will it be worth the legal costs to settle this mess ?
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Old 06-03-2016, 15:26   #17
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This guy, WTF. He's not too far from me. He will get caught. That's pretty messed up he would do that.
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Old 06-03-2016, 15:34   #18
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It's a big, big game of hide and seek. The law almost always finds them afaik. They are going to want to learn to turn off the positioning system, no?
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Old 06-03-2016, 15:38   #19
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Stupid enough to stiff the waiter maybe too stupid to turn off locator. I know he doesn't have the common sense to just come back and settle. That would be his best move.
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Old 06-03-2016, 15:41   #20
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This guy, WTF. He's not too far from me.
Well, then ...

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Pretty hard to hide a boat that size.
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Old 06-03-2016, 18:07   #22
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Might be easier to negotiate a reasonable settlement for services rendered from a distance.

Not defending a complete runner but may be regarded as a reasonable negotiating manoeuvre in the situation. Salvage claims can be pretty outrageous AFAIK.

Might explain why they have not turned off AIS.


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The boat might have been stolen, no? They don't seem to be sailing it very well... Just conjecture on my part. I hope all innocent parties are ok and everybody gets paid for their work.
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but may be regarded as a reasonable negotiating manoeuvre in the situation.
How do you figure that?

They asked for help. They received the help they asked for and were brought to safety at the end of the day. They did a runner right before dawn the next morning.

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The boat might have been stolen, no? They don't seem to be sailing it very well...
Must be a LOT of stolen boats sailing around, then

Bit of a leap, to put it mildly, since it's not a boat people won't recognize / remember, they use AIS etc. etc.
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Maybe that boat will bump into SV Dagny. jk...
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The boat might have been stolen, no? They don't seem to be sailing it very well... Just conjecture on my part. I hope all innocent parties are ok and everybody gets paid for their work.

Hmm, that could explain why it was on the reef initially, and the sudden departure.

Maybe was taking water and they wanted to get it to a yard of their choice quickly for repairs.

Really, could be many reasons for a quick departure - some valid, others not. We know jackshit about the situation


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There are good yards in Antigua for hauling. The skipper left without clearing customs. If the yacht wasn't pulled off the reef in time (it grounded at about 1600) it would likely be destroyed by the morning. They sailed through a tricky channel where motoring would have been the more curious option. The charts for that particular channel are wrong, the correct passage has you sailing over the windward reef. Salvage charges are generally 10-15% of the yacht value in that situation so figure around $200,000. The insurance would most likely cover that cost with some deductible due by the owner (around $20,000)
The yacht was Italian flagged.
The French islands are the best bet for clearing in without a clearance from Antigua, but it's likely they have been warned to keep an eye out for this particular yacht.
I think the facts speak for themselves.
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So.. basically your saying that if one lives in an RV/Camper and break down in the desert.. then get towed in.. and had no cash.. one could/should expect/hope to be able to keep living in it until one can find a job then pay the debt off in monthly instalments..
Hmmmmm

But.. YES.. they can put a claim on the boat and if the debt is not settled within a set time it can be auctioned off.. proceeds going to Salvage and Storage/associated expenses and some loose change might reach the owner.
Most auctions are fixed.. for the quality boats.. local power likee boat
One step closer to CC proof/payment before assistance
Perhaps, yes. Dang, what is going on with this world were so little compassion remains for anyone? Especially in the sailing community?

I am not some moon-eyed calf that does not know this world, but dang the amount of love, hell almost worship, for the dollar (or whatever local currency) is both frightening and sad.
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Perhaps, yes. Dang, what is going on with this world were so little compassion remains for anyone? Especially in the sailing community?

I am not some moon-eyed calf that does not know this world, but dang the amount of love, hell almost worship, for the dollar (or whatever local currency) is both frightening and sad.
There's a ton X gazillion compassion in the sailing community..
But.. hiding in there are the odd assholes who'll screw you over without blinking..
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and acts like a duck.. chances are pretty good... Its a Duck.
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There's a ton X gazillion compassion in the sailing community..
But.. hiding in there are the odd assholes who'll screw you over without blinking..
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and acts like a duck.. chances are pretty good... Its a Duck.
My thoughts exactly.
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