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Old 31-07-2015, 14:38   #1
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Sad News in Florida

The search will be ended tonight for two young teens whose overturned fishing boat was found in the Atlantic off Florida. The saddest part has been daily news interviews about what great mariners they were. Huh? They apparently had no float plan, no EPIRB and heaven knows what else went wrong. It was hoped they made it into life jackets and perhaps were able to cling to an ice chest that was not on board when the boat was found. We need to do more in educating young people about what that big, bad ocean can do. My heart breaks for their families and friends.
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Old 31-07-2015, 14:51   #2
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Yes I feel bad for the families.

Don't much care for the tone about them being bad mariners. You don't know what happened anymore thany anybody else. I've seen plenty of young people their age and younger out there on the water being more responsible than most of the other recreational power boaters we've seen. Sometimes things just go wrong.
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Yes I feel bad for the families.

Don't much care for the tone about them being bad mariners. You don't know what happened anymore thany anybody else. I've seen plenty of young people their age and younger out there on the water being more responsible than most of the other recreational power boaters we've seen. Sometimes things just go wrong.


I am currently in Florida, just a short distance from where these boys headed offshore. From the beginning, there have been some disturbing reports about this tragedy - an event that has received overwhelming local news coverage.

It was never (to my knowledge) reported whether there was a VHF aboard, let alone an EPIRB. The parents weren't sure how many life jackets were aboard the boat. The boys apparently never filed a float plan - instead there were Facebook(?) posts about going to the Bahamas!

According to the parents, the boys were supposed to stay inshore along the river and ICW, not going offshore through Jupiter Inlet, which can be scary even in good weather.

Fellow boaters, that were returning back inshore that day due to threatening weather, remarked that they may have seen the boys heading out and expressed astonishment that they would be going offshore under such conditions. In a small open boat.

I recall the weather that day. Thunderstorms, with high winds and lightning, rain heavy at times.

If they had stayed inshore, I doubt we would be having this discussion. I suspect that much of this can be attributed to being 14 year old boys. They may have been knowledgeable about operating a boat, but not yet at the age of wise decision making.

I hope that they are recovered, though that doesn't seem likely at this date.

Yes, sometimes things just go wrong. At the same time, tempting fate can have tragic consequences.

I hope this doesn't come off as callous or uncaring. As a parent, I can't imagine the grief the parents are experiencing. They have my sincere sympathy.

I hope the boy's souls are at peace
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They were only 14. So sad.
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They may have been knowledgeable about operating a boat, but not yet at the age of wise decision making.
I suspect that this is the crux of the issue. May their souls rest in peace.
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Re: Sad News in Florida

At their age, I often went out in our 17' open bow rider with a 100 HP Merc. Went out at Alligator point for those familiar with the Panhandle, usually went out 20 miles or so. Then there were no EPIRB's, I did have a VHF, but it never worked out that far, there were as far as I know no float plans, and I was almost always alone.
It's done seemingly by most that grow up on the water, ever watched an old episode of Flipper?
Sometimes bad things happen to good people, even good Mariners or bad Mariners.
Yes we should try to minimize it, Yes, we should mourn their passing and if you are of that persuasion, pray for their families, or even hold onto hope.
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my son used to steal my truck when i went to work at night,.. he was 13-14 at the time. he woulod drive it about 50 miles and replaceit into garage with gas and position only slightly left handed--just enough to get the feeling it went out, but not for sure...we both lucky he didnt die.
boys these ages do this. is their job. they do stoopit things and many times live thru em.
this time seems they didnt.
kids that age think they superman. no mortality yet. is "yeh yeah yeah i know how to do it better than you do , so bak off, ma, what do you know.."
is a tough age for boys, 14......harder on the parents.
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I have a son also that i love more than anything. I let him live life and take risks. Seems alot better way to live than to stay inside the house all his life because danger lurks eveywhere. This is a sad incident yes but they were living life. Not watching it on TV. RIP young fellow mariners.

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Yes I feel bad for the families.

Don't much care for the tone about them being bad mariners. You don't know what happened anymore thany anybody else. I've seen plenty of young people their age and younger out there on the water being more responsible than most of the other recreational power boaters we've seen. Sometimes things just go wrong.
I agree. Lack of EPIRB and float plan doesn't prove they were incompetent. Maybe they were incompetent, but we can't know that. I've known 14 year old boys who were fine watermen. Stuff happens out there. RIP.

If sailing a few miles offshore with no EPIRB or float plan is proof of stupidity, than most of us on here are just as guilty.

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We all have done risky things as kids. Thats what kids do.
These two deaths are no less tragic then the others that happen every day.
Why it garnered such attention I believe is because they were kids of rich parents, who are funding a continuing search at their own expense.
After day 3, it was pretty much done anyway. 3 days in open ocean, with no fresh water, in the water, is nearly unsurvivable.
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