Rogue Waves in Lake Michigan

**knottybuoyz** · 08-11-2008, 16:52

Great story of the sinking of the Pizzazz a 65' Chris Craft Constellation with underwater pics of the wreck.

http://www.michiganshipwrecks.org/pizzazz.htm

**irwinsailor** · 08-11-2008, 22:26

I personaly saw that boat in Saugatuck a week or so before it sunk. I could not beleive that it was in the water in the condition that it was in. I thought that it was being used as a floating cottage. The hull was in very poor condition.

I have heard that there is a video of it going around in circles with part of the bow broken off but I have not been able to find it.

rigamarole · 16-11-2008, 20:56

I saw the video when it was news here in Michigan. As far as a "rogue wave" - NO WAY. About the only thing that would cause a wave build up that day is a Rogue Wake. As IrwinSailor can attest, we will get some large waves, partially "Rogue" on really wavy days but in general the waves are really consistent. Now, you can take a perfectly calm day on this lake in the summer and have 3 footers in the afternoon due solely to boat wake. My cabin is just east of Sable point, there isn't any land mass or shoal to cause a wave change.

**irwinsailor** · 16-11-2008, 21:13

The article states that the yacht was "meticulesly maintained". I saw it first hand and it was anything but. I wonder if insurance fraud could be a possibility?

delmarrey · 17-11-2008, 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by irwinsailor

The article states that the yacht was "meticulesly maintained". I saw it first hand and it was anything but. I wonder if insurance fraud could be a possibility?

Heck! I can see the planks bulging from here.

And maybe even some dry rot up around the fore gunnel.

**irwinsailor** · 17-11-2008, 07:54

A little Rot is a understatement! I love those old wood Chris*Crafts and look at all of that I see. This one was as bad as any that I have seen.

08-11-2008, 16:52	#1
knottybuoyz Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Canada Boat: Sunray Mirage 25' Posts: 1,853 Images: 85	Rogue Waves in Lake Michigan Great story of the sinking of the Pizzazz a 65' Chris Craft Constellation with underwater pics of the wreck. http://www.michiganshipwrecks.org/pizzazz.htm __________________ Yours Aye! Rick ~^~^~^^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~^~~^~^~^^~~^~^ "Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief even denied to prayer." Mark Twain Last edited by knottybuoyz; 08-11-2008 at 16:58..

08-11-2008, 22:26	#2
irwinsailor Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Macatawa Michigan Boat: Amanda Faye 61' Custom Irwin aftcockpit ketch Posts: 1,382 Images: 106	I personaly saw that boat in Saugatuck a week or so before it sunk. I could not beleive that it was in the water in the condition that it was in. I thought that it was being used as a floating cottage. The hull was in very poor condition. I have heard that there is a video of it going around in circles with part of the bow broken off but I have not been able to find it. __________________ *Gunner*

16-11-2008, 21:13	#4
irwinsailor Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Macatawa Michigan Boat: Amanda Faye 61' Custom Irwin aftcockpit ketch Posts: 1,382 Images: 106	The article states that the yacht was "meticulesly maintained". I saw it first hand and it was anything but. I wonder if insurance fraud could be a possibility? __________________ *Gunner*

17-11-2008, 07:54	#6
irwinsailor Moderator Site Helper Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Macatawa Michigan Boat: Amanda Faye 61' Custom Irwin aftcockpit ketch Posts: 1,382 Images: 106	A little Rot is a understatement! I love those old wood ChrisCrafts and look at all of that I see. This one was as bad as any that I have seen. __________________ Gunner*

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16-11-2008, 20:56	#3
rigamarole Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Coast of Michigan Boat: Power boat and small sail Posts: 134	I saw the video when it was news here in Michigan. As far as a "rogue wave" - NO WAY. About the only thing that would cause a wave build up that day is a Rogue Wake. As IrwinSailor can attest, we will get some large waves, partially "Rogue" on really wavy days but in general the waves are really consistent. Now, you can take a perfectly calm day on this lake in the summer and have 3 footers in the afternoon due solely to boat wake. My cabin is just east of Sable point, there isn't any land mass or shoal to cause a wave change.

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