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Old 24-01-2014, 15:55   #46
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Re: Refuelling mid passage...Help please :-)

Indeed. Sat in Bayona one afternoon I watched a pretty Contessa 32 sail into the marina under full sail. Down through the pontoons in a busy marina the skipper couldn't have known there was any spaces available before he committed to sailing in. At the last moment he saw one space, the crew dropped the sails and he glided in stopping perfectly alongside the pontoon.

Suspecting there was more to this than met the eye, I went and had a chat to him. Seems they ran out of diesel 30 miles out and with no wind drifted about for 3 days before a faint zephyr gave them just enough to reach port.

Bet he wished he had an extra 20 litres in a can.

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Old 24-01-2014, 16:17   #47
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Re: Refuelling mid passage...Help please :-)

> Seems they ran out of diesel 30 miles out

Rule 1 on passage in a sailboat: Never use all of your fuel at sea - always keep a reserve for maneuvering once you reach landfall. It's far better to be becalmed for a couple of hours extra out to sea.
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Old 25-01-2014, 02:34   #48
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There's a few of us here who don't have the luxury of two 150 litre tanks to link for transfers in our 31ft and under boats.. some only have 40L tanks and have to carry extra cans strapped midships on each side..
And I think that was the OP's point and difficulty..
Absolutely, but that's the point I made at the start, an electric pump can pickup from a jerry can also. With the pump plumbed in permanently, and a suitable pickup, the transfer could be done from inside the boat, minimising the risk of water contamination from a wave coming over the size and swamping the filler while you are balanced on the side of the boat with the jerrycan held between your knees, hanging on the stay with a one hand and trying to squeeze the bulb, jiggle the siphon, whatever, with the other.

And the pump will fit in a 31 footer too.

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Old 25-01-2014, 05:19   #49
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Re: Refuelling mid passage...Help please :-)

Consider using an outboard motor style fuel hose with a hand pump "ball" in it. Pump the ball to get the siphon started. I keep a short length of copper tubing inserted in one end of the hose; when the hose assembly is not in use I connect both ends of the hose with the copper tubing in order to contain any fuel left in the hose. Works great.

I like the idea of a Tee fitting inside the boat, at the fuel tank, to avoid having to go on deck to transfer fuel.
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Old 25-01-2014, 06:39   #50
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However you get the fuel flowing the diameter of the hose will control how long it will take. If you are in a uncomfortable position the time to dump the five gallons will be important. I suggest you make a habit of always putting in the stored fuel before taken on new fuel. It is just to easy to pull up for fuel and not cycle your extra deck stored into your system.
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I like the idea of a Tee fitting inside the boat, at the fuel tank, to avoid having to go on deck to transfer fuel.
I've done just that with a new engine install. Day tank fitted with valves which allow filling the day tank through a filter from a can, or the opposite.
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Re: Refuelling mid passage...Help please :-)

The jiggle syphons work great. Had to power for 36 hours back to SF when my self steering vane ripped out of the transom, long story about lost nut and mounting bolt. Used up nearly all my boat tank powering that long. Transferred 15 gallons from Gerry Jugs without any problems. Just wedged the jugs in place, stuck the jiggle syphon in the jug, shook it a bit and Bob was my uncle. In way less than an hour had 15 new gallons in the tank. Now use it to fuel up with Gerry Jugs. No scratching up the topsides at the fuel dock or paying their inflated prices. Fill is in the cockpit sole which makes it easy to wedge the jugs in place
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Try an outboard motor fuel line with a primer bulb. 3/8" or bigger.
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Re: Refuelling mid passage...Help please :-)

Motored 1300 NM from Sri Lanka to Malaysia - no wind but 4 7 hours! Used the rag and hose method. 10 20ltr jerrycans. Worked fine, no mess.
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Home Depot and most hardware stores carry a handbulb siphon for 3 bucks. They are with the kerosene heater supplies. They will drain a 5 gal jerry can in 5 mins.
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Re: Refuelling mid passage...Help please :-)

2 quick comments.
The jiggler syphon works for me but I have put the marble end in a length of 1" ID aluminium tubing to make sure it reaches the bottom rather than curling up inside the jerry can.
On long trips I have a 100+ litre fuel bladder. To use it I transfer, or T, the main fuel line so that the engine pumps it out. You must ensure that the main tank has enough capacity left to accomodate the bypass fuel as it is passed by the engine. Andrew
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Re: Refuelling mid passage...Help please :-)

I dont know the Ericsson class at all, but a quick google search showed me that the filler cap is on the outside of the cockpit coaming, just in front of the Pushpit. I would consider making a bracket, using the pushpit as a mount,for you can. Then your can stays nice and safe while you simply siphon the fuel as others have suggested.
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If nobody has mentioned it a large bore outboard motor fuel line with an inline hand bulb pump as a siphon starter. You can find replacement fuel lines in most marine stores. If used while sailing best to control boat to slow motion and keep water away like maybe hove-to.
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Re: Refuelling mid passage...Help please :-)

It's along thread and I didnt read it all... but why in the world would you want to top up fuel mid passage? Are you going to motor a thousand miles in an E28 or something?
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The jiggler syphon works for me but I have put the marble end in a length of 1" ID aluminium tubing to make sure it reaches the bottom rather than curling up inside the jerry can.

That is a good idea, thanks
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