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Old 23-01-2014, 04:11   #16
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Re: Refuelling mid passage...Help please :-)

> and the store bought siphon hose falls overboard, what would you do?

Have a hose that it about three times as long as the depth of fuel in your fuel containers ( you should always have one of the appropriate length stored away in a lazarette).
Push as much of the hose as possible into the container, making sure that it fills with fuel as it submerges without any vertical loops.

Cover the end of the hose with your thumb.

Withdraw the fuel filled hose and hold it upright. Quickly move it so that the thumb-blocked end is below/close to the level of bottom of the container.

Remove thumb and watch the fuel syphon out!
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Old 23-01-2014, 04:13   #17
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Old 23-01-2014, 04:15   #18
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Old 23-01-2014, 04:27   #19
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Old 23-01-2014, 04:32   #20
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Re: Refuelling mid passage...Help please :-)

Not sure if it would help with your setup, but I bought a decent quality 12V diesel pump online, (might even have been on Ebay, not sure, but it was under AU$200) and plumbed it in between our main tanks (500 litres) and the day tank (50 litres) with an inline filter with one of those glass bowls on the bottom so that I can see if there is any water in the circuit while I am refuelling.

I imagine a similar system could be used with jerry cans and would give you peace of mind when transferring fuel.

Our day tank is 50 litres which translates to 50 nautical miles, which, quite frankly, is horribly inefficient, so we use the system a lot. And having recently done AU$2500 worth of damage to our injectors by missing the fact that I was feeding the poor things nearly pure water, I am REALLY keen on a system that keeps water out of the day tank.

So, whatever you settle on, make sure you can keep water out.

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Old 23-01-2014, 04:37   #21
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Most auto stores have generic fuel pumps for carbureted cars. I just bought 2, 1 as a back up, 1 to install as a priming pump. 4-7 psi, 27 gallons a hour, $45, gas or diesel. I had another on that I used on my old Westerbeke for 2500 hours when the lift pump was gonna cost $700. Very reliable cheap pumps, not rotary pumps but a steel ball in a magnet going back and forth. Way more power thrifty than a rotary pump.
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Old 23-01-2014, 04:54   #22
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I use 2 techniques...
On deliveries its usually the hose and rag and blow into the container..
On my boats its a short length of the appropriate sized hose linked to a suitably longer length with the squeeze pump that one use's for outboards to prime..
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Old 23-01-2014, 05:02   #23
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Re: Refuelling mid passage...Help please :-)

I used the rattle siphon, no spillage or taste. Just shake it fast and once it is started it is just a normal siphon.
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Diesel doesn't taste too bad. Never done me no haaaaarm....

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Re: Refuelling mid passage...Help please :-)

An outboard motor fuel hose with squeeze bulb inline makes siphoning easy. Put a vlave with a short piece of copper tubing on the discharge end for a spout. My hose is 15 years old and still in good shape, no issues with using diesel in a gasoline hose.
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Re: Refuelling mid passage...Help please :-)

Easy way is to put as much hose into the jug that you can and put yout thumb over the end to block it off,lift the hose out and it will be full!!Put the hose in your filler cap and it should start siphoning on its own.Always works for me.Just remember to have your jug higher than where the fuel is going into or it will NEVER work.
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I used the rattle siphon, no spillage or taste. Just shake it fast and once it is started it is just a normal siphon.
Absolutely, by far the simplest idea, just wish i had thought of it. Length of hose with a cripped metal widget on the end and a marble inside. Place cripped metal widget in tank and prime by moving quickly up and down with a hand motion most blokes will be familiar with. Marble stops the fuel running back to the tank. Once it starts leave alone to siphon. Even come in pink so your lady can do it instead whilst you have a beer


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Re: Refuelling mid passage...Help please :-)

You don't actually need to blow into the jerry can to start the syphon. With the transfer hose in position, stuff a bit of paper towel or a rag around it where it comes out of the jerry can, then just press on the side of the jerry can briefly to increase the pressure and get the fuel moving. The seal doesn't even need to be that good as it doesn't take much pressure to move a bit of diesel up the few inches that are needed to get the syphon started. Of course, this doesn't work with metal cans but i can't imagine they are too popular on boats anyway..........
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Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, lemondancer.
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Re: Refuelling mid passage...Help please :-)

Several good ideas here, I am partial to the outboard bulb, I have used it a lot.
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