To respond, Charlie...
I may need to be more clear. When I say "redundant", I mean many types of anchors, rather than having a backup to your primary.
I do have a 2nd anchor, I just wouldn't call it "redundant" because it isn't the same type and setup as my primary. It serves no other use than as an emergency
backup for that case as you mentioned where you lose your anchor and must leave.
I have never in many thousands of miles of traveling on boats and living at anchor for years, had to use any other type of anchor than a primary CQR
and now the primary Delta
I have. When I worked on megayachts and anchored in various places in the Caribbean
, we used the primary anchor as well. Never needed any other anchors.
I don't believe that different bottoms requrie different anchors, unless the bottom is weeds (with roots not allowing the anchor to hold) or cement. In those cases, no anchor will hold. To say having a Delta
, Manson and Rocna
on board means you are redundant, I'd agree. BUT... you are redundant in the same way you would be if you had 5 mainsails on board. They are only needed if you shred one (or lose an anchor entirely).
I know it flies in the face of what everyone says, but I've been out here a while living at anchor... probably logged a very conservative 1000 days at anchor? I never had a single
problem with these plow/burying anchors not setting in a seabed.
I also would have to disagree that geographical location (sailing a couple thousand miles up the East Coast
and sailing a couple thousand miles down the West Coast) has anything to do with it. An anchorage in the East Coast
USA is the same as one in the West Coast
is the same as one in Europe
, is the same as one in South America
, is the same as one in Alaska
. It's all just dirt, mud, gravel, sand or what have you that you are hooking into under the water
So... I'm still of the opinion that you don't need redundant anchors. Maybe a 2nd one in case of emergency
, but not "fully redundant" anchors, meaning 3 or 4 different types.
Originally Posted by Charlie
I've alway thought of anchor redundancy as very important. Here is my reasoning:
1) Different bottoms require different anchors.
2) Sometimes you may need two anchors to hold yourself in place (i.e storm anchor)
3) What if you have to leave an untenable anchorage in a hurry and have to leave your anchor or lose your boat.
As I write this I realize that the situations that you confront are directly related to where you intend to sail, or stated another way -- you perception of sailing. Right now I'm focused on sailing to Mexico
. There are large stretches where you can't get parts to fix your boat even with overnight mail. Say between Ensenada and Cabo San Lucas. You need to be able to make it on your own till you can get parts. If you don't have an anchor you are in trouble b/c the alternative is to keep moving.
OTOH if you were going to make a passage
in the ICW
(and I don't know if this is possible) where you stay at a marina every night. An anchor doesn't seem so important. I think this logic can be applied to any system. Do you need that system to perform the sailing you intend to do.