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Old 12-04-2014, 21:02   #61
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My sons friend last week. Poor guy. Terrible feeling.
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AFAIK Stugeron is not approved for sale in the US. Seems most people get it in Mexico. It's too bad as so many mal de mer sufferers swear by it. Why isn't it approved here, too costly to seek approval, F&D Admin inertia, side effects or what????
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I don't know. Maybe big drug company politics and lobbying.
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I am not certain anyone has mentioned this yet, but..............I have EXTENSIVE experience on the waters of the PNW and Alaska. The Washington/Oregon coast has some of the most consistently shitty weather on the face of the planet. There is a reason it is where the coast guard trains each and every one of their Surfman. Granted, most of that training is for crossing the bar on a 45' or 47' under ANY weather, but it is the area that the OP speaks of when they want to just "do circles." I can think of far better places to take my new to me boat, fresh sailing lessons, and relatively little experience..........."to see how it goes."

Seas 200 nm off the coast of the PNW generally run 10-12 on a REGULAR and CONSISTENT basis.

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Appreciate the viewpoint gavinator. Something to keep in mind.
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Re: Prepping for Blue Water

I'll go back and add 2 cents for crewing in race boats.

Good racers are racing at the limits. I have sailed with a lot of good experienced sailors who haven't sailed at the limits and can't recognize their approach. Racing teaches you to recognize when you are reaching a limit with the added bonus that if something breaks you don't have to pay to fix it.

I crewed for 2 years working up to bigger boats. I've been in sail failures, rig failures, gear failures, broaches and knockdowns. I've sailed in thunderstorms and all kinds of crappy weather.

I've changed headsails in 30 knots on a pitching deck. That's where I learned to appreciate anyone willing to work the foredeck. I hate it!

I've done real MOB recoveries in similar conditions.

I'm not intending to brag, just to point out that I would never have gotten all that experience on my own boat - I wouldn't have pushed it that hard.

In terms of watches - everyone is different. I only need 6 hours of sleep a night and prefer 6 on and 6 off. I did 3rd shift for 2 years and loved it. A rotating schedule whacks me out...

And the biggest advantage of old crew is I get up to pee 4 times a night anyway - thank you prostate!
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prostate! 4 times pees per night....do get your PSA numbers checked to eliminate prostate cancer, it's just a blood check!


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Mycroft, I'm not experienced at all as a skipper but I'm in your neck of the woods and crewed for a friend who was prepping to sail to Mexico last year. We did a round Vancouver Island trip as our shakedown, and planned to go offshore for 3-4 nights for a taste of bluewater conditions and night watches. Turned out we didn't do it because of time constraints, but I think your plan of eventually (when you are ready) heading up to Alaska on the inside and down the outside coast is a good one. I think you'll get some great experience doing this and will be well-prepared for heading south after. After our shakedown, we crewed again with our friend down to Mexico, and by far the worst conditions were off WA and OR.
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prostate! 4 times pees per night....do get your PSA numbers checked to eliminate prostate cancer, it's just a blood check!
Well not just a blood check. My PSA numbers started climbing even though the nightly trips had not increased. Doctors (yes I got a second opinion) recommended a biopsy which was somewhat unpleasant, a bit painful and took weeks to recover from. Results came back completely clean.

Latest research shows a high rate of false positives leading to unnecessary biopsies with the associated risks. So like every other medical procedure there is now controversy as to the overall benefits vs risks.

On the other hand a friend who was in his forties decided to get a PSA even though he was younger than the recommended age to get tested. No symptoms at all, it was an insurance thing. He was taking a buyout from his job and figured he should get a full checkup while he still had free insurance. His PSA numbers came in very high so he had further tests. Turned out he had a fairly aggressive form of prostate cancer and the PSA test probably saved his life.
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We did a round Vancouver Island trip as our shakedown, and planned to go offshore for 3-4 nights for a taste of bluewater conditions and night watches. Turned out we didn't do it because of time constraints, but I think your plan of eventually (when you are ready) heading up to Alaska on the inside and down the outside coast is a good one. I think you'll get some great experience doing this and will be well-prepared for heading south after.
Thanks for the feedback Anne. I do think it's a solid plan, but time will tell.
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