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16-02-2009, 23:36
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: In the South Pacific
Boat: Freedom Express 39 - Attitudes
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No Such Thing as a Stern Pulpit!
I am not one of the legalistic fuddy duddies that knows all the right terminology, but it always grates when someone calls it a stern pullpit. It's not a stern pullpit, it is a pushpit. Easy to remember, pull from the front, push from the back.
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17-02-2009, 00:14
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,822
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There is a kitchen on our boat and 2 bedrooms
But we do have a pushpit.
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17-02-2009, 00:18
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2007
Location: In the South Pacific
Boat: Freedom Express 39 - Attitudes
Posts: 61
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and don't forget the dunny!!
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17-02-2009, 01:28
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Moderator and Certifiable Refitter
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Location: South of 43 S, Australia
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I have front and back verandah rails.
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17-02-2009, 02:28
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
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I call things what makes them special to me!!!!
This is posted by Nicolle not Mark (the girl that keeps Sea Life looking clean and beautiful and makes yummy choc chip cookies at sea...lol). Hi I have not posted on the forum for such a long time, I forgot my login and I have also been busy playing with Sea Lions and doing all sorts of fun things around the world
I think (and so does Sea Life) it just doesn't matter what you call things as long as you are happy and having fun!
Everyone has their own special words for things on their boats and it makes them feel good to call it what they think it should be called.
Some people (like me) enjoy calling things by the regular land type of names (e.g. bedroom, kitchen etc etc) because Sea Life is my home and I like to feel comfortable and homely in our boat. Also when our land based friends come aboard to stay, they have no idea what a head or a galley really is.........and they don't even care.......they just want a spade to be called a spade.
So Marno call yours a pushpit if you like (it is very nice you make the effort to call it by the correct name and I understand you are just making a point about this one word), but don't get upset by what other people call it, don't let it grate you........just be happy!!!!.
I heard one cruiser call her toilet a toot recently and I thought that was fantastic..........very funny! It is her home and that is what she liked to call it.......so good on her!
We are are all different and like to do things our own special way........
I don't want my home to feel sterile and cold, having to call things by names that mean nothing to me (as a cruiser who never sailed before cruising), I want my home to feel personal, cosy and nice!
I do of course respect that some sailors are more traditional and prefer to use the correct terms, and when I speak with them I always use the proper language as they do. When talking to other cruisers/sailors etc I actually always listen for what people call things and then I just use that word whilst talking to them so that I make them feel special and there is no confusion during the conversation by changing the word.
It would only make someone feel bad if you were to correct them or point out that the word they like to use is wrong......does it really matter what anything is called? Ok. I agree we should ensure we call the safety equipment etc (things that are very important) by the correct name.
Anyway I am off to relax in my bedroom and have a nice sleep in my comfy bed.........because there really is no place like home!
Have a wonderful day!
Smiles
Nicolle
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17-02-2009, 03:03
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Grand Cayman
Boat: Lavranos 39 S/v Continental Drift
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I have a living room and a swimming pool in the basement
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17-02-2009, 03:38
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: W Florida
Boat: Still have the 33yo Jon boat. But now a CATAMARAN. Nice little 18' Bay Cat.
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Spade - is that a shovel or a card or ???
Yes it does and it is not just being snooty!
Many items are safety related in some way so where does one's grey area start and end?
liflines - fence
Stanchion - fence post
jib sheet - roller sail rope
hand held VHF - walkie talkie
Bedroom - so what, but that is about where it ends.
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17-02-2009, 03:39
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Halifax NS
Boat: '75 Hunter 27 SD
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Funny thread, I will have to agree with Nicolle on this one. It doesn't matter what I call the Galley, Laura will certainly call it the kitchen. I am lucky she is even on board with my (starting to be our) cruising future, I will call parts of the boat anything she wants to, so long as we are actually going.
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17-02-2009, 03:49
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Brighton, UK
Boat: Privilege 37
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Totally agree with the concept of calling bits by whatever makes you happy.
However,
This will only work while the boat is ONLY crewed by you . As soon as you bring in additional crew who are not used to your strange names, confusion can occur, which in the worst case can have safety implications.
This is the reason why some people like to use correct terminology
Another reason is due to having been at sea professionally for many years, and actually having difficulty remembering the land side terminology!
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17-02-2009, 04:29
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: W Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Talbot
This will only work while the boat is ONLY crewed by you . As soon as you bring in additional crew who are not used to your strange names, confusion can occur, which in the worst case can have safety implications.
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I meant that too.
Thanks.
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17-02-2009, 04:30
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Seattle
Boat: Cal 40 (sold). Still have a Hobie 20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marno
I am not one of the legalistic fuddy duddies that knows all the right terminology, but it always grates when someone calls it a stern pullpit. It's not a stern pullpit, it is a pushpit. Easy to remember, pull from the front, push from the back.
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Can you provide references? When I started sailing in the 70's, everyone that used the term would always laugh and say get the joke, you pull from the front and push from the back, they're both really pulpits.
John
Annapolis Book of Seamanship, page on boat parts shows on the stern: after pulpit.
weblink:
PUSHPIT / ¦ noun a raised safety rail in the stern of a yacht Origin
¦ noun a raised safety rail in the stern of a yacht. Origin1960s: humorous formation, suggested by pulpit.
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17-02-2009, 05:19
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: St. Georges, Bda
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DOUBLE-ENDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DONT EVEN GO THERE.
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17-02-2009, 05:41
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
Boat: Pearson 422
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Donald Street in "The Ocean Sailing Yacht" referred to it as the stern pulpit or alternatively the more picturesque British term pushpit. If you really want to get traditional why not taffrail, which I guess more correctly is wood and more ornamental.
I have to go with Nicolle on this one. As long as it is not operational and safety related why get too obsessive over it. I personally enjoy and prefer traditional nautical terms and traditions in general but try not to get too hung up in the practise. When I have non nautical guests on board I try to make it a part of their fun to learn proper nautical terminology without being too much of a martinet (my wife tells me I do not always succeed in this particular goal).
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17-02-2009, 06:21
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hayes, VA
Boat: Gozzard 36
Posts: 8,700
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Quote:
I have front and back verandah rails.
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We have you all beat. We have a Breezeway! Much of the boat terminology stems from the various sailing countries of the early years with boats that only exist in museums. Last I checked there isn't a standards organization. We are all faced burden of the language we all speak.
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17-02-2009, 06:26
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 24
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what about the addition? top,side,behind? 1or two car garage(dingy)?
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