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Old 02-05-2016, 14:28   #1
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Mooring Line Interference with Anchor

When we bought our 1975 Tartan 41, I added a bow roller and plow style anchor. To do this the starboard chock was removed and reinstalled about 4 inches farther aft and is now part way on the aluminum extruded tow rail (see pic). This has worked fine for docking and anchoring for 3 years. But we just picked up our new mooring last night and quickly found that the mooring pendant, when run through the starboard chock, will contact and sometimes get under and catch the anchor as the boat swings. We had to pull the anchor up over the pulpit rail and set it on deck. Can anyone suggest an easy solution so the pendants won't foul on the anchor?
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No pic, Zach.
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Try using only port chock.
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Thanks.. I like using 2 pendants and one chock will only hold one line. But there may be a way to bring both lines up on port. Maybe through a snatch block or something suspended from the pulpit. Not sure if loading the pulpit is a smart idea though... arrangement pic attached, i hope.

3/4 inch line... pretty heavy but still like 2. Also, I don't have a snatch block for line that size and that would be a pricey purchase. I'm hoping for a clever way to arrange lines without spending a lot, or anything.
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Re: Mooring Line Interference with Anchor

I'm having a hard time picturing it, Zach. It seems that the farther aft the lead is the less likely the pendant would foul on the anchor. Does the port side pendant clear above the anchor or below it? Or is the starboard location of the roller the problem for the starboard pendant?

Dual pendants on the port side may be your only option though that could effect how the boat lays to her mooring.

Before you added the roller where was your anchor?


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Or lower the anchor a few feet?
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I'm having a hard time picturing it, Zach. It seems that the farther aft the lead is the less likely the pendant would foul on the anchor. Does the port side pendant clear above the anchor or below it? Or is the starboard location of the roller the problem for the starboard pendant?

Dual pendants on the port side may be your only option though that could effect how the boat lays to her mooring.

Before you added the roller where was your anchor?


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thanks, the port side clears to port and the issue is the fact that the anchor is offset a few inches to starboard. The pendant rubs the starboard fluke as the boat swings and sometimes rides down and under the tip of the anchor catching on it. Before the roller, the anchor and rode lived below in a 5 gal bucket and was rarely used. I'm trying to give this old racer a new life as a cruiser. I don't have a great pic with the anchor on the roller, but i attached one I hope helps.
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thanks, the port side clears to port and the issue is the fact that the anchor is offset a few inches to starboard. The pendant rubs the starboard fluke as the boat swings and sometimes rides down and under the tip of the anchor catching on it. Before the roller, the anchor and rode lived below in a 5 gal bucket and was rarely used. I'm trying to give this old racer a new life as a cruiser. I don't have a great pic with the anchor on the roller, but i attached one I hope helps.
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Have you considered moving both chocks further aft? That should have the effect of lowering your mooring lines at the point where they intersect the anchor.
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Put the anchor in the locker where it belongs.
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Just make up a dedicated mooring bridle that runs through the P & S fairleads..


Opppssss... just seen the pics and you appear to have lost your stbd fairlead..
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Re: Mooring Line Interference with Anchor

I don't think you will ever get mooring pendants to clear the anchor. Tie it up to pulpit front while moored. Not pretty but stops chafe and flipping the anchor out of roller. In the attd pic,I forgot to tie mine up in this surprise blow. Rolled anchor but it stayed aboard. Chafed 1" mooring pendants some.
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Mooring Line Interference with Anchor

Good suggestions with varying expense and labour:

Move fair leads further aft and use two pendants like a bridle. Need strong point further aft.

Change the anchor roller so anchor is further forward and/or higher. Construction could be a little light now anyway?

Add a strong point to the stem low down and have one or two hefty wire "pendant connectors" . Bit clumsy but could work.

Store the anchor on deck in chocks when moored. Simplest really but may not suit your back.

Use one proper pendant thru port fair lead. Many racers have done this.

Like most things, we make our own issues and solutions.



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Re: Mooring Line Interference with Anchor

I had similar problem when I went to larger anchor. I now have a dedicated mooring line/snubber attached to bow eye a foot below the anchor. This eliminated the problem plus decreases the amount of scope necessary when anchoring.
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Re: Mooring Line Interference with Anchor

when thaat happened with mine, i merely removed anchor to foredeck and ta daa no problem no issue. good luck figgering this out.
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I had similar problem when I went to larger anchor. I now have a dedicated mooring line/snubber attached to bow eye a foot below the anchor. This eliminated the problem plus decreases the amount of scope necessary when anchoring.

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This worked for me on a 38' racer which I cruised for years. Very useful for anchoring - better for scope and does not pull the bow down into the waves as much. We often slept in the front berths on the mooring and the difference was significant.


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