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13-05-2015, 19:18
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Southern Tier, NY
Boat: Newport 28
Posts: 326
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Re: Man dies dragged by sailboat,
My first thought is that the wife was incapable or didn't know how to handle the boat enough to stop it, to allow him to not be dragged? It doesn't say, so it's hard to know for sure, but that's what my first guess was. Or if she was below when it happened and didn't know? I would hope if she was there, and could've dropped the sails or anything to slow the boat, he could've at least held onto the side upright, even if she couldn't get him on board herself. Very sad though, no matter the circumstances.
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13-05-2015, 20:20
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Boat: Retired Delivery Capt
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Re: Man dies dragged by sailboat,
Sad to hear. The whole topic of keeping the tether short enough to keep you on the boat has been discussed many times.
Regarding the crew, she could have been below and unaware.
RIP
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14-05-2015, 02:47
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Underway in the Med -
Boat: Jeanneau 40 DS SoulMates
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Re: Man dies dragged by sailboat,
It will be interesting to see what comes of this. and why did it happen.
We have talked a lot about this scenario over the past 8 years and hope if we ever get into a situation where we need to do something calm heads will prevail and action taken that will save a life.
We have both harnesses and lifejackets with a built in harness so we can clip in. If I have to go out of the cockpit in rough wx I wear the lifejacket and not the harness.
One thing we almost never do is go out of the cockpit without someone there watching. We have a DS so if I go out of the cockpit and the admiral is below I tell her I am going out and she can watch but she does not like it unless she is in the cockpit.
Very sad story indeed but maybe we can all learn something from it.
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14-05-2015, 03:52
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Brisbane, Australia.
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Re: Man dies dragged by sailboat,
Always sad. RIP fellow sailor.
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14-05-2015, 05:21
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Canada or Spain
Boat: Jeanneau SO 43 DS
Posts: 1,162
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Re: Man dies dragged by sailboat,
So sad ...
My condolences to all those affected.
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14-05-2015, 05:38
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
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Re: Man dies dragged by sailboat,
r i p .
i hope folks will start being smarter with tethers and jacklines.
i have seen way too many jacklines proudly installed along toe rail.. is a bad place for a 6 ft tether to be affixed.
please centerline your jacklines.
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14-05-2015, 05:54
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Huron, Ohio
Boat: Albin Coronado 35(1972)
Posts: 640
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Re: Man dies dragged by sailboat,
I need to review my tethering process...
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14-05-2015, 06:20
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Potomac/Chesapeake
Boat: Hunter 36
Posts: 663
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Re: Man dies dragged by sailboat,
I am really confused why the man couldn't pull himself back in the boat. Isn't that what tethers are for? If you are sailing solo, you won't have another person to help you. But it's unclear if he had physical ailments, was injured, or intoxicated when this happened.
It's also possible the man had a heart attack, fell in, and he was too heavy for his wife to pull him back aboard.
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14-05-2015, 06:28
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ocean Springs, MS
Posts: 279
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Re: Man dies dragged by sailboat,
lessons to be learned from the sadness:
--EVERYONE aboard should know how to at least stop the boat, better to know how to sail/motor
--tethers should be short enough to disallow those tethered to fall completely off the boat
--there should be training in winching/using the boom and tackle/whatever to get an incapacitated person aboard
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14-05-2015, 06:29
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cowichan Bay, BC (Maple Bay Marina)
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Re: Man dies dragged by sailboat,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rohan
I am really confused why the man couldn't pull himself back in the boat. Isn't that what tethers are for?
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Because you simply can't. Not what tethers are for. That's why we mention it so often.
Stay on the boat!
The very BEST explanation I have ever read was just last week (& I rarely use the word BEST for anything in the sailing world of compromises):
Treat your gunwale like a 500 foot cliff.
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14-05-2015, 06:31
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Round Bay, Severn River
Boat: Formerly Pearson 28-1, now just a sailing dinghy
Posts: 1,332
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Re: Man dies dragged by sailboat,
Radio net this morning stated that he'd been working in the rigging, fell, and hit his head on the way down, knocking him unconscious. Very sad.
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14-05-2015, 06:49
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,525
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Re: Man dies dragged by sailboat,
Man-overboard is my only real worry offshore. It doesn't matter if you are held by a harness or wear a life jacket - your odds of survival are low once you clear the lifelines.
While we wear both harness and lifejackets outside the cockpit there are two equally important rules:
No one leaves the cockpit offshore without someone in the cockpit watching
Everyone should carry a knife at all times and there should be one secured in the cockpit and at the mast.
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14-05-2015, 07:20
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,103
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Re: Man dies dragged by sailboat,
Always sad to hear of a sailor dying at sea due to accidents.
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14-05-2015, 07:24
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,364
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Re: Man dies dragged by sailboat,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rohan
I am really confused why the man couldn't pull himself back in the boat. Isn't that what tethers are for?
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Give it a try!
I'm positive I couldn't pull myself up hand over hand with a tether from overboard, even without factoring in the boat speed/water. I bet I'm in the majority.
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