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02-02-2011, 04:23
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Long Splice in Double Braid
Hi knowledgable ones.
I made the mistake of leaving my Jack Russel dog in the car with my double braid, extension anchor rope (that which I use when I run out of chain), and in his boredom he chewed through it, and now I have two double braid, extension anchor ropes.
So, what I require now is a secure method of joining the two lengths together so that it will go down a hawse pipe. ie a long splice or similar. I repeat this is double braid rope.
I do NOT think an eye splice, or shackle will go down the hawse pipe.
regards
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02-02-2011, 04:40
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Not the easiest to splice rope that has already been under load, but here is how you do it.
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It will always be stiffer at the splice, but should make it down your hawse pipe.
Cheers
JOHN
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02-02-2011, 05:37
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Pagan,
Here are the instructions to print out and have infront of you as your doing your end to end splice.
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02-02-2011, 05:39
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Please be aware that the constant diameter splice shown in the videos does NOT achieve the full strength of the line. It is commonly used for furling lines and such.
There is an end for end splice that does achieve full strength but it also increases the diameter.
I haven't made a video for that one yet but the directions are available from New England Ropes among others.
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02-02-2011, 05:55
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and to think ... I used to believe a Jack Russell would be the perfect boat dog!
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02-02-2011, 05:59
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Welcome to the forum.
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02-02-2011, 06:39
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Sounds like you have some nice dock lines (you can learn to splice eyes in the ends) and are on the lookout for a new length of rode. No No Bad Dog.......
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02-02-2011, 07:03
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A constant diameter end-to-end splice weakens the line significantly. I would not advise using it for an anchor rode.
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02-02-2011, 07:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bash
A constant diameter end-to-end splice weakens the line significantly. I would not advise using it for an anchor rode.
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I agree. Perhaps I didn't make that clear in my previous post.
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02-02-2011, 14:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptPatAg
Sounds like you have some nice dock lines (you can learn to splice eyes in the ends) and are on the lookout for a new length of rode. No No Bad Dog.......
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I have no problem with making eye splices in DB but i have never tried end to end splices.
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02-02-2011, 14:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sneuman
and to think ... I used to believe a Jack Russell would be the perfect boat dog!
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No Dogs Were Hurt in The making of These Mooring Lines.
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02-02-2011, 15:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by knothead
Please be aware that the constant diameter splice shown in the videos does NOT achieve the full strength of the line. It is commonly used for furling lines and such.
There is an end for end splice that does achieve full strength but it also increases the diameter.
I haven't made a video for that one yet but the directions are available from New England Ropes among others.
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I am not going to use the knowledge to mend the anchor rode, I have this thing that when I realise there is something I don't know I have to find out how to do it. The long end is still 85 metres so will still be useful. the remainder will be a useful 15 metres spare line.
Can I just say that this is my first day on this site and I am extremely impressed with the help I been given. I also belong other forums but this one is special.
Pagan
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02-02-2011, 15:06
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Properly done, it will be close in strength to whole line, BUT it will increase the diameter. FWIW I would do as others said and make up some new ducklings. I only use 3 strand for anchor lines, as they splice much more easy.
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02-02-2011, 17:03
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The splice you want is a cat eye splice... to join two bitter ends of double braided line.
Have cut bad parts out of mooring lines and used this splice to repair the mooring line.
It similar to an eye splice but doing it twice... Have fun.
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02-02-2011, 17:11
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Anything that potentially weakens something as critical as anchor warp is a no-no for me. I wouldn't risk a splice in that particular line. I'd replace it and use the 2 pieces for something less crucial.
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