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Old 11-12-2012, 10:58   #1
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Logging Sea Days for Captain's License

I know how to log time on a boat I own. I know how to log time on someone else's boat when they are with me. How do you log time when you are the Skipper / Head Charterer on a bareboat rental?
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Re: Logging Sea Days for Captain's License

Get the manager of the charter operation to sign for your time. Recently chartered with Sunsail out of Tortola, for example, and when I asked them about having someone sign the form they were completely familiar with it and got it signed for me, no problem.
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Get the manager of the charter operation to sign for your time ...
Small Vessel Sea Service Form ➥ http://www.uscg.mil/forms/cg/cg_719s.pdf

If you were not the owner, the Owner, Operator, or Master must complete the remainder of this form.

Owner, Operator or Master Read Before Signing!
I certify that the above individual has served on the above vessel as stated. I am making this statement in order that the applicant may obtain a license to operate a vessel under the provisions of Title 46 CFR, as applicable. I understand that if I make any false o fraudulent statement in this certification of service, I may be subject to a fine or imprisonment of up to five (5) years or both (18 U. S. C. 1001).

I expect that you would have qualified as the "Master"; but there's no harm in getting the Owner/Operator (Charter Co) to sign.
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Re: Logging Sea Days for Captain's License

my understanding is since you are the skipper, you self certify.

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my understanding is since you are the skipper, you self certify.

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Only if you are also the owner. Otherwise, GordMay has it right.
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Re: Logging Sea Days for Captain's License

Once you get licensed it gets a little more involved to keep track of the hours, which is one reason a lot of 100 ton guy bypass the sea time requirement and just redo the rules of the road exam. No paperwork, just a few hundred bucks for a quick test of materials you should probably re-test on anyway.
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I will have the charter base manager sign, but I may also try to get another passenger to sign as well. Why? Logically, the charter manager can't really know if you just went around the corner and dropped the hook. I think the owner signature assumes the owner is on the boat with you. I'd rather be covered as I log day 1 instead of discover a lapse on day 360.
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I will have the charter base manager sign, but I may also try to get another passenger to sign as well. Why? Logically, the charter manager can't really know if you just went around the corner and dropped the hook. I think the owner signature assumes the owner is on the boat with you. I'd rather be covered as I log day 1 instead of discover a lapse on day 360.
Just don't get too creative. The folks at the nmc are friendly but they expect every form to be completely exactly according to the rules.
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All you have to do for sea time on a bareboat charter is include a copy of your charter agreement for the vessel with the coast guard small vessel sea service form signed by you as master.
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Re: Logging Sea Days for Captain's License

The only way to get a true answer is contacting the National Maritime Center at
IASKMNC@uscg.mil
or 1-888-427-5662.

Here is a link to a USCG PDF document on how to calculate Seatime.

When I am working on other peoples boats, I carry a few blank Seatime forms and have the owner sign it before getting off the boat.

When I am working commercially, the owner or company representative can write a Seatime Letter, which includes a description of the vessel (including tonnage), your crew position, number of days service (In or Outside COLREG Line) and of course the Owner/Captains signature.

Hope that helps and good luck with obtaining your license!
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Re: Logging Sea Days for Captain's License

So, way back when I was a kid, about 50 years go, I used to work on the water. I would go out every day in my boat, run out an hour or so, and jump over to catch clams. Most days we moved around a bit, or just horse around burning up gas. Then run back in. I'd run may three hours average a day out and back.

Little Egg Harbor, South of Barnegat Bay in NJ.

Over a few years of doing this 5 days a week for 10 weeks in the summer you build up some time.

How would THAT be counted? Somewhere I read anything over age 15 counts. And I was a commercial fisherman.

FWIW since then...I did a little work here and there on lobster and ocean clam boats. Did 4 years in USCG, aviation, radioman, E-6, had a runabout for a wee bit. Then some years ago got a sailboat that I have been using in summers, mostly solo, in Canada.

Last summer I did a solo, mostly, trip of 4,000 miles around Newfoundland. So I've got about 7,000 miles in the past few years. That is not enough in itself and I'm wondering how far I can go back.
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Just don't get too creative. The folks at the nmc are friendly but they expect every form to be completely exactly according to the rules.
Didn't help me. I logged all my sea time perfectly, and then promptly flunked the color vision test.
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And I was a commercial fisherman.
Were you union? A friend of mine was able to prove his sea time through his fishing union. They apparently keep records a long time.
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Naw, just a clammers kid in a runabout,
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So, way back when I was a kid, about 50 years go, I used to work on the water. I would go out every day in my boat, run out an hour or so, and jump over to catch clams. Most days we moved around a bit, or just horse around burning up gas. Then run back in. I'd run may three hours average a day out and back.

Little Egg Harbor, South of Barnegat Bay in NJ.

Over a few years of doing this 5 days a week for 10 weeks in the summer you build up some time.

How would THAT be counted? Somewhere I read anything over age 15 counts. And I was a commercial fisherman.

FWIW since then...I did a little work here and there on lobster and ocean clam boats. Did 4 years in USCG, aviation, radioman, E-6, had a runabout for a wee bit. Then some years ago got a sailboat that I have been using in summers, mostly solo, in Canada.

Last summer I did a solo, mostly, trip of 4,000 miles around Newfoundland. So I've got about 7,000 miles in the past few years. That is not enough in itself and I'm wondering how far I can go back.
8 hours makes up a Sea day, though 4 hours "Can" count . a 16 hour day does not mean you get credit for two days at sea. Its kind of Funny, I believe when you calculate it all out, you have more hours getting your 100 ton ticket, than a commercial pilot is required to have.
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