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Old 09-12-2015, 20:01   #1
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"Let's go for a little sail on the lake.."

lake Erie that is!
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Old 09-12-2015, 21:04   #2
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Re: "Let's go for a little sail on the lake.."

Cant hardly wait!! I remember the days when Erie used to burn.
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Re: "Let's go for a little sail on the lake.."

Cheech,
Anyone who has sailed the Great Lakes knows its real potential. The difference in Great Lakes sailing versus ocean sailing is how quickly the waves build and the short distance of the fetch between the large square-faced waves. Great photo! Rognvald
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Re: "Let's go for a little sail on the lake.."

Thanks for posting this picture. I did a delivery once across lake Erie ,never again.
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Re: "Let's go for a little sail on the lake.."

You gotta love great lakes sailing...you may want to stay inside the harbor on this one too...
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Re: "Let's go for a little sail on the lake.."

Radical sea states! Ive done just a little Great Lakes sailing, fortunately in very benign conditions.
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Re: "Let's go for a little sail on the lake.."

Fresh water less dense = steeper waves. Can get rough to be sure.

Thought I had seen it all after I saw +80 knots winds for about a half hour once during a Mac race on Lake Michigan.

That was until I crossed the North Atlantic and weathered a six day gale.

Let's face it, storms never last more than a day or two, the max fetch never exceeds about three hundred miles, and there is never current running against the wind.

Above photo has been posted before, from a winter storm bouncing off a breakwater or something. No one out there sailing.
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Re: "Let's go for a little sail on the lake.."

Great Lakes sailing can be quite challenging. The larger lakes (Superior, Huron, Michigan) are large enough to produce very large waves, but will have steeper shapes and most importantly shorter wavelengths. The smaller lakes (Ontario and Erie) won't generally produce as large a wave, but are even tighter and steeper. And in the summer the winds and waves can build up very quickly due to rapid land heating. Erie in particular will produce very steep, large waves in a very short time due to its general shallowness.

I've sailed all the Lake but Michigan. Spent nearly a decade on Superior. Seen a lot of northern gales. Erie is the one that spooked me the most. I recall be anchored off Long Point one morning, sipping my morning coffee. Wind starts to whisper. No problem I thing, we've got a few hours before it gets going. HELL NO! In 20 minutes I was fighting to get the anchor up as we were being blown to the lee shore in steep and building seas.

Ocean sailing obviously brings us face to face with greater raw power. But the Great Lakes (and probably other bodies like the Chesapeake) are not to be taken lightly.
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Web cams can be fun, too. Just look at one from Duluth for example, I know, different lake, but still one of the Great Lakes.
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Calling for 35 knot winds and 3-4 meter waves today on my end of Lk Ontario.
Think I'll head to the lake to watch for a while this afternoon.
Not a group of lakes to under estimate, things can build up fast and you find yourself with no searoom as many ships/boats have found out the hard way in the last 300 or so years.
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Web cams can be fun, too. Just look at one from Duluth for example, I know, different lake, but still one of the Great Lakes.
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Re: "Let's go for a little sail on the lake.."

I've sailed out of Buffalo since the 90's. I have sailed a fair bit on Ontario. Sailed some in Michigan and Huron. Took a canoe from batchawanna bay to pancake bay on Superior but never sailed there.

Of the 4 great lakes I have sailed on, Erie has the most uncomfortable waves. Too steep and too close together. That's why this October after my summer of pretending Faith was a trawler and exploring the Erie canal, I exited via Oswego into lake Ontario.

Ontario's wave shape can also be steep but nowhere near as uncomfortable as Erie.
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Re: "Let's go for a little sail on the lake.."

Well I sail Ontario out of Little Sodus Bay & would have to agree with you about the waves. When you consider that the lake is 190 miles long it helps account for the wave length & pitch. Smooth rollers are nice but we don't see them very often !
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Well I sail Ontario out of Little Sodus Bay & would have to agree with you about the waves. When you consider that the lake is 190 miles long it helps account for the wave length & pitch. Smooth rollers are nice but we don't see them very often !
I got Faith's mainmast put back up in little Sodus. I like that place. If it was closer to home I would love to keep her there.
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Cant hardly wait!! I remember the days when Erie used to burn.
Like the Cuyahoga!

Respect for the Great Lakes sailors... I'll take Point Conception any day over a bad one up there...
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