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Old 08-10-2009, 08:39   #16
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Personally, I'm holding out for "Blue Right Returning."
Its should be more entertaining: Sparklers for entering port; and when you leave a horn with fart sounds.






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Its should be more entertaining: Sparklers for entering port; and when you leave a horn with fart sounds.






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I just went through the German licensing and had to learn the IALA-A system (n.b. the Caribbean basin uses IALA-B as well). It was so easy to remember "7-Up cans are green" for odd-green-cans which implies even-red-nuns and all one needs is the ubiquitous "red-right-returning" and the rest can be read up on. No, the IALA-A has green on the right, green is still odd but now nuns.... Sheesh!
I think I did see a number of cardinal marks in the USVI (rocks between St. Thomas and St. John) but in the German exam they didn't show you marks some of the time, you had to remember the lights (white flash, iso for N, groups of 3, 6, 9 for E,S,W with a long one put on S for good measure). In the Ostsee, which has huge tidal areas, they use bushels of branches as port/stbd. markers as well, bushel pointing up is port side.
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Hmmmmmm Maybe its just the way my brain works () but Cardinal markers are the biggest confusion on the sea! I can never remember is ... oh I can't do it on the keyboard... ^v is east or west. I only know vv or ^^ is south and north occasionsly... and then theres some just yellow blobs... Well what way yellow blob?? Of so I am meant to KNOW its a isolated danger mark!

Maybe they should sink the lot and put red and green markets around them.... IN the USA they could just put them upside down

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The cones point in the the direction of the black on the buoy.

To distinguish west from east remember "Western Women are Wasp Waisted, while Eastern Ladies are Elongated Equatorially."

The lights are the same as the clockface.

Cardinals buoys have great logic.

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The cones point in the the direction of the black on the buoy.

To distinguish west from east remember "Western Women are Wasp Waisted, while Eastern Ladies are Elongated Equatorially."

The lights are the same as the clockface.

Cardinals buoys have great logic.

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I'll try those tricks Thanks

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Another. You can fit a "W" into the west cardinal buoy and an "e" in to the east cardinal buoy.



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You are right about the markers north of OZ and up to Thailands. They just do not mark the channels with anything except with fish nets and stakes and the occasional wreck.

Otherwise they love lights at night, I remember purples, blues, orange, whites, reds and greens, all flashing on boats, but never standard running lights! I suppose that is still true?

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purples, blues, orange, whites, reds and greens, all flashing on boats, but never standard running lights! I suppose that is still true?
Too right its still true. Very pretty, though.

We never saw a standard set of Nav lights in indonesia... The worst one was White Above Red on both sides of the vessel = Tug towing large unlit barge

Kumai to Singapore - about 600 miles - we saw about 10 of them.

You know its a barge when you look at it and say, that fishing boat going backwards past that large island....


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Ha, white over red, never saw that when I made the same passage, but I did managed to run afoul of a fishing net in the middle of nowhere our second day out of Kumai, managed to get the rudder untangled before dark! Much better than playing tag with tug boats and unlit barges!

Are you at Port Dicksonnow?

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No. At Danga Bay. Its a new marina near the Causeway at Johor Bahru that connects to Singapore. The marina is free! Buggers started charging us for electricity last week so the airconditioner mob have to start turning the machines off when they leave the boat!!!

Heading to Port Dickson soon when we decide if we do more work here or go north. Then Langkawi and Phuket for Christmas
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There's more fun to come Mark ; )

In Langkawi the fishing fleet have made some efforts to conform to ColRegs. They do have red on port and green on starboard. Unfortunately, they are both all round lights - try and get across the bows of that one!!

Pair trawlers took me a while to figure out - the flashing light indicates the seaward boat. Typically yellow flashing from road work lights
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I love this place, it's a gold mine. Those little nuggets of navigation knowledge that you just can't get except from those who've been there, done that Thanks guys

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