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Old 23-04-2010, 21:44   #1
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How Easy Is it to Back Out of this Slip ?

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I was wondering what you guys thought about backing out of this slip. In the picture our possible slip would be the the one in the red circle. We dock bow first and we do not have a bow truster. Our overall length including everything is about 41ft. In between the two docks is about 60ft. This will be my 4th summer of boating. I am by no means an expert at docking but I do feel very comfy backing out and pulling into a normal slip. The reason I am asking this questions is because we want to rent this space for the summer but we are worried we may have problems backing out.

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Old 23-04-2010, 21:50   #2
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this could be a piece of cake to get out of.

Walk the boat back along the dock and when you have the stern in the approximate northern third of the dock, shove the nose off and motor forward.
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if you have a right-handed prop it could create problems, but if you use sarafina's suggestion, you'll never have a worry.
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The only potential problem I see is if there is a good breeze from the upper left corner of the photo which would tend to prevent getting the bow headed out. In other conditions the boat could be led aft by a stern line held tight to the walkway, give the bow a good push and it's headed out.
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That is a very good slip to have because you have the whole walkway to land your boat and to orient it for departure.

Just part of the learning curve but you'll find out what works best for you and the crew.

Remember you could always fix a small loop of line and fixed fender to the walkway where you want a pivot point and use a stern spring to warp the bow out before you pull your line back thru the loop.
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Having a beautifully designed boat that just can't be steered in reverse I can empathize, I'd suggest:

Use a spring-line on your port side, looped around a dock cleat about where your stern is and run to a cleat on your boat about amidships or aft of that. When you back up and clear your slip tighten up on the spring line to swing your bow to starboard.

If you have a floating line as your spring line you won't worry too much about your prop fouling it. If you run the spring line around the dock cleat and back on board you can drop the line and retrieve it from on board.

Use fenders to "bounce" you off the dock.

Even a floating spring line can be fouled in the prop so have someone retrieve it as it becomes slack.



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Old 24-04-2010, 04:11   #7
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SVENG,
I thought I was the only one who had a boat that wouldn't steer in reverse! Turkish, - both ways may seem embarrassing or unprofessional, but both work, and that's all that counts. I've actually dived over to get the bow around. That was embarrassing.
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oh lord... our little hole in the water is a total hog in reverse...

you are in abundant (if not good ; -} company!
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Helped a friend move marinas a fortnight ago, he has a..... Beneteau 36 centre cockpit. Boat pulls hard to starboard in reverse until you get a bit of way on.

So assuming you park her bows in then reversing out could be an absolute doddle. However there is only one way to find out. Suggest a few folk on board armed with mops or brooms to fend off the first time if it goes pear shaped.

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I would not be so concerned with the exit as that walkway gives you what you need for a very controlled exit (walk out), if not very "yachty". My concern, depending upon the prevailing wind direction and speed, would be with the return. If the breeze is blowing left to right and Mr Murphy raises his ugly head (engine problems at the last second) you could have a hot entry with no option to over run the slip. If this were my slip I'd be looking at various plans for stopping a hot entry.
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But isn't that the case with everyone who uses a marina, every time they return home?

You could have a couple of buckets on the aft corners I suppose, but they wouldn't get rigged past the first couple of occasions. However a nice big wide dock fender in line with the bow would be good incase you over shoot with the engine working fine. We have a couple of horizontal fenders rigged to the dock just incase

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There seems to be a navigable channel on the opposite side of the dock too !!!

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Why not come in turn to port and back into your slip? then your set to leave bow first...Your prop walk is going to be working for you in that scenario holding you into your dock...no?
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Hmmm. Seems to me that "yachty" is handling your boat in such a way that it doesn't get out of control. Walking the boat backwards would seem to me to be very yachty. You are doing the right thing at the right time to make sure nothing goes wrong.

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Stillraining has the simplest solution to the siuation allowing you to leave and return in comfort and style.
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