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Old 28-08-2016, 10:32   #61
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Re: Heave /Hove to -what are the limits?

I don't like when you purchase an E-Book and they won't download it to you.
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Old 28-08-2016, 11:13   #62
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I just received my new E-Book from Noel Swanson all about Drag Devices Data Base and with a quick scan ,it looks extremely informative and well edited . I'm sure I'll be spending many hours reading and re-reading the valuable information contained in this treasure trove. I highly recommend this gem for anyone water sailing">blue water sailing.
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Old 28-08-2016, 11:20   #63
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It flows north as a warm current then in the Arctic it gets cold and plunges down and flows south deep under water on the other side of the ocean.
Its a lot more complicated then that but i run out of space.
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Old 28-08-2016, 15:49   #64
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In the Coral sea experience I hung a 5 gal. container off the bow and punched a few holes with a
ice,?,pick it doesn't take much oil to be effective.
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In the Coral sea experience I hung a 5 gal. container off the bow and punched a few holes with a
ice,?,pick it doesn't take much oil to be effective.
Were you headed to.. or from Antarctica..??
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Old 28-08-2016, 16:34   #66
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Sounds like an extra 5 gal backup could be useful on a long trip. I can't believe i just learned of this technic today.
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truly interesting dougtiff!
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Sounds like an extra 5 gal backup could be useful on a long trip. I can't believe i just learned of this technic today.
Well, it exists but not sure you are going to find too many folks who use or endorse it, and not just because they are concerned about the pollution aspect of it. But give it a try and let us know how you like it! Take videos too!
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I would be interested in learning who thinks laying to a sea anchor is better than attempting to heave to and under what conditions. It certainly involves fewer variables.
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I would be interested in learning who thinks laying to a sea anchor is better than attempting to heave to and under what conditions. It certainly involves fewer variables.
Here is one thread:
Use of drogue/parachute anchor on Catamaran

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Victor Shane's Drag Device Data Base | Using Parachutes, Sea Anchors and Drogues to Cope with Heavy Weather – Over 130 Documented Case Histories
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From what I understand , is that the combination of Hove to with a sea anchor hooked to the bow then a rope with a block on it attached to the sea anchor rope leading back to the cockpit so you can adjust the angle of the boat to quarter the waves on an angle is a routine used by many survivors in some of the most tragic races of all time. Now If you added the oil water calming affect to this combination I believe it would make the situation much more comfortable and survivable according to some of the wise sailors commenting on this subject.
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Noel resolved the downloading issue and everything is hunky dory now! Thanks for your help Noel and coming to my rescue so quick.
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IE wave height and keeping control; didn't the Pardy's use a parachute sea anchor off cleats mid ships? Im not going to look this up right now, but I seem to recall they would set a bridle off the midships cleat and run their parachute anchor on a line set to wave frequency. And did so under bare poles. Not a technique for the amateur I think.
Taleisin heaves too under trysail. I haven't tried it yet, but when I do I'll be sure to write about it.
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The old school way to get oil into the water is to pour it in the head, then slowly pump it out. Jonny Wray used to swear by oil on the water. I can't think of anything worse than a boat covered in slippery oil. Van dorm talks about it in oceanography and seamanship. Apparently a detergent works just as well.

On the hove too thing. The couple of times I have tried it in stronger blows I have struggled to keep the nose up. Ended up mostly beam on to the bigger seas. The pardy technique might work better.

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The old school way to get oil into the water is to pour it in the head, then slowly pump it out. Jonny Wray used to swear by oil on the water. I can't think of anything worse than a boat covered in slippery oil. Van dorm talks about it in oceanography and seamanship. Apparently a detergent works just as well. .......
I don't think that would work with a USCG approved holding tank system ..

Dribble it down the wash hand basin in the head or maybe just down the galley sink...
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