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02-02-2013, 12:03
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Fully battened mains'l, but vertically? Does it work?
I have an aftermast furler of the main. Very happy with it and the Admiral loves it. Reefing is so easy.
We are getting to the point that soon a new main will be on the budget!
The present one is not battened at all.. Logical... But I have heard that for furling main vertically battened main exist! First news for me
Does it work? Any experience with it someone?
Thank you
Alec
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03-02-2013, 04:52
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Conclusion: nobody on this forum has ever used a vertically battened main.....;-)
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03-02-2013, 05:20
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Re: Fully battened mains'l, but vertically? Does it work?
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03-02-2013, 05:26
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I have a verticle battened main, brand name Elvstrom-sobs tad. I use it with an in mast roller furling system. Very clean and neat. Easy to reef, used it for ocean passages.
What are your questions?
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03-02-2013, 06:12
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Re: Fully battened mains'l, but vertically? Does it work?
Paul Lockwood, of Omar Sails in Beaufort, nc has made several with excellent results. I looked into a behind the mast furling system for the boat I am on right now and wish I had gone with it. His website is; Home
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03-02-2013, 19:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cruiser_wannabe
I have a verticle battened main, brand name Elvstrom-sobs tad. I use it with an in mast roller furling system. Very clean and neat. Easy to reef, used it for ocean passages.
What are your questions?
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Thank you
Questions were : does it work without problem when furling?
Advantages over an unbattened one and/or a horizontally battened one?
Worth the difference of price with a non battened..? Etc...
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04-02-2013, 10:05
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Furling, the same as reefing, is easy in light and heavy winds. One does need to practice in light winds in order to operate smoothly. I have a in mast furling so some practice runs are needed.
The advantages of a battened main is the you get more sail area versus the traditional main used for in mast systems without battens in the sail. The sail holds its shape well.
Worth the difference in price? I don't have a feeling of the current price difference.
If you are talking a non in mast furling option, then I am not sure why you would want a vertically battened main at all.
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04-02-2013, 10:15
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Re: Fully battened mains'l, but vertically? Does it work?
I had a main with full vertical battens on a previous boat.
The upside was better sail shape. The downside was that it would have taken several minutes to drop the sail, since it could only be done after the battens were removed. No way you could simply drop this sail in a blow by releasing the halyard. And you can't use a headboard with in-mast furling, so that creates problems of its own on a sail with roach.
A partially furled sail would have better luff tension, given that it would be furled near a batten.
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04-02-2013, 10:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cruiser_wannabe
Furling, the same as reefing, is easy in light and heavy winds. One does need to practice in light winds in order to operate smoothly. I have a in mast furling so some practice runs are needed.
The advantages of a battened main is the you get more sail area versus the traditional main used for in mast systems without battens in the sail. The sail holds its shape well.
Worth the difference in price? I don't have a feeling of the current price difference.
If you are talking a non in mast furling option, then I am not sure why you would want a vertically battened main at all.
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Thank you
My question was about the advantages of vertical battens. I already have a furling main after mast. Just wanted to have info from people having vertical batten main
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04-02-2013, 10:48
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Originally Posted by Bash
I had a main with full vertical battens on a previous boat.
The upside was better sail shape. The downside was that it would have taken several minutes to drop the sail, since it could only be done after the battens were removed. No way you could simply drop this sail in a blow by releasing the halyard. And you can't use a headboard with in-mast furling, so that creates problems of its own on a sail with roach.
A partially furled sail would have better luff tension, given that it would be furled near a batten.
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We don't drop the main we furl it back....
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04-02-2013, 10:51
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I am guessing from your replies that I am not giving you the info you needed. I can tell you that I am extremely happy with the verticle battened main, easy to manage, neat and tidy. I would buy it again.
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04-02-2013, 11:13
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Re: Fully battened mains'l, but vertically? Does it work?
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Originally Posted by Alecadi
We don't drop the main we furl it back....
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If there's ever a problem with your furler, you will have no choice but to drop the main.
Think about it.
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04-02-2013, 11:21
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Re: Fully battened mains'l, but vertically? Does it work?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alecadi
Thank you
My question was about the advantages of vertical battens. I already have a furling main after mast. Just wanted to have info from people having vertical batten main
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Two people who have had vertical batten mains have just attempted to answer your questions, only to have you snip at them.
WTF?
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04-02-2013, 11:40
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Originally Posted by cruiser_wannabe
I am guessing from your replies that I am not giving you the info you needed. I can tell you that I am extremely happy with the verticle battened main, easy to manage, neat and tidy. I would buy it again.
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Sorry you felt that way
No bad intention from my part
Thank you for the clarification you just gave me
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04-02-2013, 11:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bash
If there's ever a problem with your furler, you will have no choice but to drop the main.
Think about it.
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:-) with the system (old one) I have, I can't just drop the main! Its several hours 2 men jobs. Not joking
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