Originally Posted by vtcapo
I have the following anchors ... 33 lb Bruce as a lunch hook ... a 20 lb Hi-Tensile Danforth as a stern anchor ... I don’t see a need for the Fisherman in South Florida
or the Bahamas
. ... she takes up a lot of space and where do I store it?
Any suggestions would be appreciated….
PS BTW I would like to anchor on the St. Lucie River (my wife won’t go off shore), which is soft mud. I’ve used a Danforth without a problem. Will the Bruce do the job for an overnight stay?
The Bruce is a bit small for anchoring
overnight if judged solely against your displacement
, but I'm guessing your windage is low in proportion to displacement
, so provided you don't snatch at it, it may well be OK as long as you're on board.
Bruce anchors in "small sizes" (some say less than 45lb, others 35lb) have received a bad rap lately on the www.
I did a lot of anchoring
over many years on a 23' boat with a 20lb genuine Bruce, and the only time it dragged was in a very shallow anchorage in very soft mud, where in the course of a windy night it dragged 6 feet.
As I was moving ashore to mind a house for a friend (overlooking the boat) I laid out a big Bruce (66lb, with 5/8" chain) as a portable mooring
, expecting that would be definitive. Over the next two weeks, which included a couple of storms, it dragged 4 feet (I'd put down a marker buoy at the toe so I could check) which REALLY surprised me, but vindicated the 'small' Bruce somewhat. And confirmed my thoughts about the challenges of very shallow anchorages
(the yacht had a lift keel
and was in the shallowest water
possible to get inside a mooring
field). To put things in perspective, at least one "Real" (certified) mooring in the same bay moved during this period.
I wonder if people who cast aspersions at small Bruces are perhaps basing this on anchors which are actually small in relation to the vessel, which is a somewhat different question.
My experience suggests to me that a "small" Bruce can still be a good anchor provided it's generously sized in relation to the vessel.
Having said that, soft mud is where Danforth style anchors shine, provided you don't swing on them.
One way to ascertain how well the Bruce will hold would be to set it in the mud in question, then row the Danforth out astern and set that. Gentle them both in for a while by snugging and loosening either rode
. Then wait a while for nature to do some further work.
After a few hours, apply some serious load from a winch
and see which anchor comes back on board. (Remember the bow anchor is taking the vector sum of wind
load, in addition to the load taken by the stern anchor)
Fisherman anchors are often stowed (disassembled) in chocks on internal bulkheads, under the cabin sole
, or (particularly on bigger boats) against the hull
Incidentally it was interesting going on board the accurate replica of Capt James Cook's exploration sailing ship "Endeavour" some years ago: it seemed almost everywhere you looked down below spare anchors (huge fisherman types) were tucked away, built into nooks and crannies. When you've no engines, and no charts
(he was drawing them as he went) and there's too much breeze to tow the boat with the longboats, your anchors are all you have.