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Old 18-03-2012, 19:24   #31
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The good thing about a rainbow flag is it shows you are aperson of color fun and excitement. If you are flying it and a person who is gay approaches simply tell them you are not they will happily except that answer and not push to convert anyone!!! Helk you might just meet the best friend you could ever have. Just saying...

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Old 18-03-2012, 19:28   #32
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Re: Flags - What Do You Fly ?

David, you're....What, a citizen of Jersey? Wouldn't that entitle you to fly UK battle flags?
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David, you're....What, a citizen of Jersey? Wouldn't that entitle you to fly UK battle flags?
Battle flags are a big deal in some racing communities, especially among larger keelboats. Decades ago, down in Monterey, all the Division A boats had their own battle flags, and a proper racing yacht would always hoist the battle flag on the headstay foil before steaming out of the inner harbor. A great ritual. It was a big-boat way of saying, "BRING IT!!"
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Battle flags are a big deal in some racing communities, especially among larger keelboats. Decades ago, down in Monterey, all the Division A boats had their own battle flags, and a proper racing yacht would always hoist the battle flag on the headstay foil before steaming out of the inner harbor. A great ritual. It was a big-boat way of saying, "BRING IT!!"
There used to be a great tradition in Wonderblond's yacht club for the Wednesday night beer cans. If you needed crew, you hoisted your battle flag in the slip. Those who were trying to hook up with a ride would come down to the club deck at 5:00, scan the harbor for battle flags, and head for the boat they thought would deliver the best ride.
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Re: Flags - What Do You Fly ?

I've got a motor cruiser and am unclear where I should fly a national courtesy flag and a quarantine flag. The ensign flies on a stern pole. My boat has no mast, which leaves me with two options:

1) Fly them off a bow pole

2) Rig a line an hoist them up the radar mast which is 3' or so higher than my arch.

Any opinions on which would be better?
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Re: Flags - What Do You Fly ?

The bow pole will work.

Many other questions previously posted could be answered by going to post #2 and visiting the referenced site.
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I've got a motor cruiser and am unclear where I should fly a national courtesy flag and a quarantine flag. The ensign flies on a stern pole. My boat has no mast, which leaves me with two options:

1) Fly them off a bow pole

2) Rig a line an hoist them up the radar mast which is 3' or so higher than my arch.

Any opinions on which would be better?
On a mastless powerboat, the quarantine flag replaces any flag that usually flies from the bow staff. Once you've cleared customs, the courtesy flag takes this place. Never fly a courtesy flag plus a burgee from the bow staff at the same time.
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Re: Flags - What Do You Fly ?

Oh, a personal "battle" flag. No no, I mean a real battle flag. A battle flag is a flag (not necessarily national) that is actually flown in battle. In the US, the Serapis flag, flown by John Paul Jones, the many variations of "Don't Tread on Me", one being popular and specifically authorized on USN vessels right now...

A real battle flag, not just a Type-A personality owner's flag. Most? nations do have specific battle flags.
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Oh, a personal "battle" flag. No no, I mean a real battle flag. A battle flag is a flag (not necessarily national) that is actually flown in battle. In the US, the Serapis flag, flown by John Paul Jones, the many variations of "Don't Tread on Me", one being popular and specifically authorized on USN vessels right now...

A real battle flag, not just a Type-A personality owner's flag. Most? nations do have specific battle flags.
Actually, you're wrong. What you're referring to is more properly termed a "battle ensign." You've confused "flag" with "ensign," a common mistake.

Battle ensign - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The "battle flags" to which I've referred are properly referred to as "flags," like an owner's flag or an officer's flag.
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Oh, a personal "battle" flag. No no, I mean a real battle flag. A battle flag is a flag (not necessarily national) that is actually flown in battle. In the US, the Serapis flag, flown by John Paul Jones, the many variations of "Don't Tread on Me", one being popular and specifically authorized on USN vessels right now...

A real battle flag, not just a Type-A personality owner's flag. Most? nations do have specific battle flags.
I thought Battle Flags were specific to each ship - but no idea where that thought came from ......anyway, probably something that is no longer current, kinda like declaring war before dropping bombs on the peasantry.

In practice of course giving folk advance warning of what is coming down the pipe is a tactical error - especially within the private sector, especially as wit needs to replace aircover.

But, FWIW mine will mean no quarter given, nor expected. and no prisoners. As me Missus used to say: "f#ck 'em" . Happy days .

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Re: Flags - What Do You Fly ?

Bash, is it still an "ensign" when carried by land forces, as many were/are? My understanding is that an "ensign" is a subset of "flag", so when you're talking about the larger set, "flag" is still correct to describe them all.

David, you're right of course about giving warning. It is a long-standing western christian character fault to "play fair" "follow the queensbury rules" and all that noble rot, when sneaking up on your enemy and taking him down in one shot minimizes any possible damage.

Still...You could run up in a clown suit with a big pink polka dot flag, and clock 'em while they're still guffawing!

(You have seen the classic movie about the pink submarine, either the original or the remake, no?)
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(...) a Battle Flag (for use when encountering Pirates etc . or being a Pirate ).
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Or a towel over the boom: "PLS do not disturb!" ;-))))

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Or a towel over the boom: "PLS do not disturb!" ;-))))

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It depends on one's English. In the USA, I believe the terminology would be battle flag or regimental flag. In Britian and the Commonwealth the term is usually 'colour', i.e. Queen's colour or regimental colour.
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National flag, big lager flag (red) and small pirate flag.. Two masts = more locations to play with

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