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Old 27-08-2015, 22:11   #16
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Re: First Solo After Four Years

Hoping this picture will turn out.

My track is a real problem where you reef from to. This hole means I can easily loose half my sail as it drops or as I did earlier today forget to put the sail in the slot, hoist it up and realise it's not in the slot.
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Old 27-08-2015, 22:18   #17
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My rigger wants to lead the main lines aft. But it's going to cost a pretty penny to do it. But If I'm going to solo more often I can see I'm going to need it for sure.
I'm not sold on that idea for solo sailing.

I suppose it depends on the boat, but if you have room to work at the mast, then maybe some "granny bars" are all that is needed. Wedge yourself in, and get to work, able to see everything that is happening with the sail and lines and deal with them accordingly.

A boat I regularly sail on has everything led aft and they don't even pretend to operate it from the cockpit, they send someone forward to the mast first, then the person in the cockpit works the winches, jamb cleats etc, while the person at the mast guides the sails up and down. So that boat is actually next to impossible to sail solo as it is currently rigged.

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Old 27-08-2015, 22:19   #18
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Hoping this picture will turn out.

My track is a real problem where you reef from to. This hole means I can easily loose half my sail as it drops or as I did earlier today forget to put the sail in the slot, hoist it up and realise it's not in the slot.
Can't you put a pin through that pair of holes above the entry point to stop the sail slides popping out? Or would that leave everything too far up the mast from the boom?
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Can't you put a pin through that pair of holes above the entry point to stop the sail slides popping out? Or would that leave everything too far up the mast from the boom?
The pin holes were for what came on it when I purchased it. A cotter pin went in there. My rigger replaced it with a screw with a nurld end to turn by hand. You can see the screw in the top of the slot.

The problem is that to Reef, you have to take this screw out and drop the main enough through the slots so that the reef holes in the sail will reach the hooks in which to fix the reef. Then when you want to go back to a full main you have to open the screw, feed what sail tracks came out and once in, do the screw up again. It basically takes three hands.

But alas, I only have two.
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... It basically takes three hands.

But alas, I only have two.
To quote the famous Russian sailor and poet... "Shitski!"

That's more of a racing rig to my simple mind. Can you take another photo showing the slot in relation to the boom, there might be some ideas from others here on CF of how to solve that dilemma.

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Re: First Solo After Four Years

RC,

A long time back, there was a post written by a singlehander who heaves the boat to to reef. I'm thinking that might work for you.....?

Then you ease out the main till it luffs, and go forward. You can lean against the boom if you need to and will have one hand for the winch handle and one to feed the main.

We have lazy jacks, and they corral the bunt of the sail when it's reefed down. For us, it's way easier than dealing with the nettles and tying in all the reefs along the top of the boom. Maybe lazy jacks might make your life easier.

Finally, good on ya for getting out there and doing this. You'll figure out lots of ways to improve, we all do.

Cheers, mate,

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Re: First Solo After Four Years

Mark your halyard so you just how much to drop it. This mark will allow it to drop a tiny amount more than needed.

So loosen the halyard, cleat off at the mark. Remove pin and allow sail lugs to drop down, set the the reef tack on the horns or however you boat is set up. Now retension the halyard and reef the clew.
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To quote the famous Russian sailor and poet... "Shitski!"

That's more of a racing rig to my simple mind. Can you take another photo showing the slot in relation to the boom, there might be some ideas from others here on CF of how to solve that dilemma.

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Is this far back enough.
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Gee wiz, there must be snow on the mountains, it's getting damn cold.
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RC,

A long time back, there was a post written by a singlehander who heaves the boat to to reef. I'm thinking that might work for you.....?

Then you ease out the main till it luffs, and go forward. You can lean against the boom if you need to and will have one hand for the winch handle and one to feed the main.

We have lazy jacks, and they corral the bunt of the sail when it's reefed down. For us, it's way easier than dealing with the nettles and tying in all the reefs along the top of the boom. Maybe lazy jacks might make your life easier.

Finally, good on ya for getting out there and doing this. You'll figure out lots of ways to improve, we all do.

Cheers, mate,

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I have lazy jacks. My battons get caught in them unless I have the sail dead in the centre.

What do you mean by 'heave the boat to the reef'?
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Mark your halyard so you just how much to drop it. This mark will allow it to drop a tiny amount more than needed.

So loosen the halyard, cleat off at the mark. Remove pin and allow sail lugs to drop down, set the the reef tack on the horns or however you boat is set up. Now retension the halyard and reef the clew.
that's exactly what I'm meant to do. yes.

But doesn't seem to work that way when it's gusting wind and :I'm on my own.
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OK, my take on this, based on bugger all experience and the joy of buying a boat that was setup by a genius. That was pure luck, we just liked the colour.


First, regarding the boom arrangement, I PERSONALLY, would remove that bit of track above the goose-neck allowing the sail slides to come down all the way to the boom. Then the "escape" hole a foot or so up would need to be contained in some way, but that should be simple enough. Bit of ally and some of those knurled knobs you mentioned. Or, you could try to source what I never managed to find for our Austral 20, which is one of the sail feeders used in dingy sailing, that guides the bolt rope into the sail slot in the mast. I never found one big enough, and that just feels complicated, but its a possibility. That whole boom arrangement feels really racing-boat to me, but then a couple of coal barges look like racing boats to me after a few years on the Swanson.


Regarding the sail battens getting caught in the lazy jacks, either go to CF member SVTotem and order a lovely set of new sails, with nice tight little batten pockets that don't snag, or, if your sails are not completely and utterly bagged out and stained like ours were, just a pair of lines or elastic cord from pulleys on the spreaders that pull the lazy jacks lines gently outwards. Or both.


Home straight I reckon.


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Oh yeah, and a bit of silicon spray on the sail slides, might make a world of difference.
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I have lazy jacks. My battons get caught in them unless I have the sail dead in the centre.

What do you mean by 'heave the boat to the reef'?

Heaving to is a great way to slow things down.

I keep a line in my upper reef point at the mast to use for a down haul.

It sounds like u will have a story to tell of ur first solo.


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that's exactly what I'm meant to do. yes.

But doesn't seem to work that way when it's gusting wind and :I'm on my own.
It will after a few more solo sails

Tis amazing what a bit of practice will make of for what is now difficult tasks.
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